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To: cheryl williamson who wrote (8418)6/12/1998 6:19:00 PM
From: Hal Rubel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74651
 
Java vs Windows

Cheryll,

Sounds like you know your stuff. So, I can sit at home with my odd-ball computer and crank out Java stuff of my own for just about any client out there with little regard to his platform.

Boy, I just hate it when clients panic and get herded into standardizing on some hyped-up software or hardware of the hour, because it never seems to be what I standardized myself on by the time I get on the scene.

I see how learning Java could make a temp like me a lot more portable in the job market. The heck with clients past mistakes. I would be compatible. Imagine an army of compatible temps out there. Our productivity would be a force to behold.

Only thing is, does Java do what I do? I analyise data from data bases, I write and distribute procedures, and I create technical and user manuals with illustrations. If I ever get to be in management, I guess I'll just put out great e-Mail and go to meetings, my computer career being at an end.

Thanks for your reply.

Hal

PS: Regarding your comment about Bill Gates being full of S***, what ever that is, I am sure you meant it in the nicest possible way. HR



To: cheryl williamson who wrote (8418)6/12/1998 6:23:00 PM
From: foundation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74651
 
Greetings Cheryl:

I agree with your views concerning Java, and have minor experience writing code, both in C+ and Java.

However, how has MSFT lost its attempt to steal, or perhaps more appropriately corrupt the cross-compatibility of Java with the integration of, primarily, Active-X code?

I know that a suit has been brought against MSFT by Sun. Won't the damage be done by the time that litigation concludes, similarly to Netscape being mortally wounded prior to that litigation being concluded?

I hope my perspective is in error.

Regards,
blg



To: cheryl williamson who wrote (8418)6/13/1998 10:49:00 AM
From: rudedog  Respond to of 74651
 
Cheryl -
Did you know that desktop computers comprise only 2% of the microcomputer market???
Software developers care about units, not revenue - and in units desktop computers are more like 90% of the market. I can't think of any measure including revenue where desktops are less than 50% of the market unless you are counting automotive engine controllers in your microcomputer numbers. I don't know too many developers who write for the chevy suburban 454 timing control microcomputer.

Can you back up your 2% number with any data of any type?

You don't program in Windows, Windows is not a language
Do you know what the win32 API is? do you know anything about programming?

BTW I'm still waiting for you to explain why CPQ is outselling the Sun UE450 by more than 50 to 1. I thought you would explain that data to me, given that the UE450 is so much better.



To: cheryl williamson who wrote (8418)6/14/1998 12:14:00 PM
From: rudedog  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 74651
 
Cheryl -
Since you have not posted in response to my question about why the Sun UE450 sold less than 8,000 units in 1997 as opposed to CPQ sales in the hundreds of thousands, I thought I would take a moment to offer some possible explanations for why Sun has not ridden this clearly superior product to market domination.

1) Sun UE450 is like a Rolls-Royce, hand assembled by skilled artisans. You can't mass produce art. Think of the 27 coats of hand-rubbed lacquer on the logo, the keyboard with each key's pressure feedback uniquely tuned to the strength of the user's fingers. Those who appreciate true quality will always be a minority.

2) The Sun UE450 is so powerful that, like nuclear weapons, if too many got into the hands of any one company, it could destabilize the entire industry. Sun is selflessly sacrificing huge profits for the good of us all.

I don't know if these are the real explanations, perhaps you can clarify my thinking on this. Awaiting enlightenment...