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To: mozek who wrote (8450)6/14/1998 3:37:00 AM
From: Bearded One  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74651
 
Mozek, try not to feel paranoid. You seem to think that I and others think of Microsoft like the Arabs think of Israel. I happen to love and use many Microsoft products. The two biggest issues with Microsoft now happen to be NT 5.0 and the DOJ/Netscape/Java stuff, and on those particular issues, I believe Microsoft has problems. That is why you don't see me posting lots of hallelujahs about Microsoft.

As far as inaccuracies and irrelevant anti-Microsoft statements, I think that you have to get off your dudgeon. There's an old Gypsy phrase-- if someone calls you an Ass, ignore him. If two people call you an Ass, ignore them. If three people call you an Ass, buy a saddle. Microsoft is getting a lot of heat these days from a lot of directions, and rather than just say we're all incompetent or manipulative or jealous or whatever, maybe you should take another look at some of your assumptions. Maybe Scott MacNealy has a point.

Personally, I do not believe that Microsoft made the changes to the java.* heirarchy on purpose. Rather I think they just didn't respect Sun's position on the issue, which, considering Sun developed and licensed java, is somewhat in bad faith. I *do* believe that Microsoft's decision not to include the networking APIs to be unfaithful to the spirit of the contract with Sun, and a judge will decide if it's unfaithful to the letter. You'll disagree with me on that, of course.

No, I do not write Sun's PR. I don't pretend to know less than I do, and I do not believe that everyone at Microsoft has evil intent.

Did Microsoft publish documentation with VisualJ++ specifying their version of the java.* heirarchy? If not, I withdraw the charge.

Back to the intent thingie-- stating that you intend to comply with a licensor's wishes is completely different from stating that you intend to comply with your understanding of the license, no matter what the licensor says about its view of the license. One gets you sued, one doesn't. And, as far as Netscape's relationship with Sun... it's clear to everyone that they get along better than Sun and Microsoft and that Sun can and will sue Microsoft over certain things which Netscape doesn't get sued for doing. That's the value of having a good business relationship. It doesn't negate the legality or ethics of the lawsuit that does get filed.

As far as where I work, I maintain my anonymity for personal reasons. I have some famous relations, let's leave it at that. They are not in the computer industry. My company will do fine no matter what the future performance of Sun, Netscape, Oracle, or Microsoft. You are free to count my anonymity against my credibility if you wish.

My last post on this for a week or so--I think we both need a breather.



To: mozek who wrote (8450)6/14/1998 3:38:00 AM
From: mozek  Respond to of 74651
 
Bearded,
I should have included IBM in that list of companies as secondary. My mistake.