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To: CMason who wrote (18491)	6/16/1998 3:57:00 PM
From: david sosiak	Respond to of 31646

Dear CMASON, Thanks for your excellent post.I couldn't have said it better.WOW!! Regards, Dave

To: CMason who wrote (18491)	6/16/1998 4:01:00 PM
From: John Mansfield	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 31646

CMason, Well thought out article; on the conservative side though. << and most major manufacturers and utilities are going to at least be concerned enough to do an audit. >> 'At least' : with an audit only; there will be NO electricity. Ample evidence for this position has been accumulated in many posts on SI and elsewhere. Remediation costs tons of money. To get a feeling for some recently discovered y2k problems try e.g. ship2000.com. Not much of shipping to be seen in 2000; probably. Regards, John

To: CMason who wrote (18491)	6/16/1998 4:12:00 PM
From: Mama Bear	Read Replies (8) \| Respond to of 31646

Thanks for a rational response. "Keep in mind that the factory floor systems in many industries are truly mission-critical" Can you fill me in on why the embedded chips on a factory floor are date dependent? I've heard ridiculous assertions vis a vis the Y2K problem. In line at a food store I heard the checker warn the customer in front of me not to ride elevators on 1/1/00. Why would an elevator care on what day it was going up and down? Likewise, why would a robot on a factory floor care what day it was canning Coca Cola? Frankly, I didn't have a bear case before I started reading this thread. I've just found that when you have holders such as Mr. sosiak, further investigation is warranted. When people engage in personal attacks, it belies their own insecurity with their position, as well as a fundamental lack of knowledge how the market works. And people like that are often the greatest fools in the greater fool theory. Again, thanks for a rational assesment of your point of view. Barb