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To: JMD who wrote (11612)	6/17/1998 9:15:00 PM
From: Sawtooth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 152472

<<I learned today from a reliable source that VLSI's ASIC is called CDMA-A, is NOT subject to the Q's IPR and is a run at Ericy's WCDMA sans Q. All in all, I thought it was a rather legitimate inquiry. No?>> Yes; but on what basis, Mike, would VLSI's "CDMA-A" not be subject to Q's IPR? TIA. ...Tim

To: JMD who wrote (11612)	6/17/1998 9:30:00 PM
From: Bernard Levy	Respond to of 152472

Hi Mike and chaz: I can certainly attest to the fact that both of you have been perfectly friendly and civil, which holds in fact for the vast majority of SI posters, except perhaps for a few political ideologues on the LOR Political thread. Best regards, Bernard Levy

To: JMD who wrote (11612)	6/17/1998 10:01:00 PM
From: gdichaz	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 152472

Mike. My misunderstanding was that I was reacting to your first post asking for info on Winstar and Teligent when Bernard had written what seemed to me a first class and very perceptive run down on them. In the event, as they say, you had simply missed it in the mass of stuff you had waiting on your return. Let my astonishment at that run away with my typing hands. Wrong. Understand now how that happened. My apologies. Re VLSI thought that it was clear as crystal that VLSI had a license from the Q for its chip. If that is not so am astonished. Your question then is very relevant indeed. And if a US chip maker can turn out CDMA chips without a Q license that would be a first, no? Still find hard to credit, but this is a straight fact which needs to be found out somewhere somehow. Gregg would be the best source, but he seems to be taking time out. Please forgive my outbursts. But do hope that VLSI is in fact operating with a Q license. Welcome back. Look forward to your wit and probing questions. Respect. Chaz

To: JMD who wrote (11612)	6/17/1998 11:37:00 PM
From: Clarksterh	Respond to of 152472

Wow - Everyone needs to take a valium. VLSI is definitely a royalty paying user of Qualcomm IPR. I own some VLSI, and have, on and off, long enough to actually remember when VLSI proudly boasted about this at a Quarterly CC (in late '96 I think). As for whether this chip, in particular, uses Qualcomm IPR, I'd be very surprised if it didn't. I suspect the confusion arises from the following quote from the VLSI press release: VLSI is the first vendor to offer both GSM and CDMA products, reinforcing the company's position as a leading wireless chip provider. This also uniquely positions VLSI to address the emerging third-generation IMT-2000 standard that combines CDMA and GSM technology. At first reading it is somewhat confusing, and seems that it might imply that this new chip is directed at the IMT-2000 standard. But that is not the case. It is directed at CDMAOne, and the potential customers are likely to be largely Japanese suppliers for the Japanese CDMAOne system. The statement in the press release is only saying that since VLSI is, at this point, the only vendor supplying both GSM (they are the prime supplier of GSM chips to Ericsson) and CDMA chips it is uniquely positioned to be able to take advantage of a convergence of the two. Period. Clark