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To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (33407)	6/18/1998 7:47:00 PM
From: Petz	Respond to of 1572107

Anand like K6-2-333 better than Pentium II-400 for playing "Unreal" anandtech.com The only test that seemed to give the Monster 3D II a hard time was running Unreal at 800 x 600 or 1024 x 768(SLI), in both cases, the faster system among the Pentium II/K6-2 test units seemed to be the K6-2. While Unreal has yet to attain a Timedemo-like function to achieve accurate frame rates, you can't fool the gamer when it comes to the look and feel of a title like Unreal, and it does seem to look and feel better on a K6-2 running with Dual Monster 3D II's (in comparison to a Pentium II - 400). This is in a review of the Monster II video accelerator by Diamond. Petz

To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (33407)	6/18/1998 10:40:00 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572107

Pravin, Even though the Celeron will run on a LX or BX board I have to wonder how many of these boards actually find a Celeron chip. To my knowledge the Celeron systems that HP is selling use the EX chipset and the mobo is made by Intel. I think maybe Intel is the only mobo maker using the EX. The Socket 470 thing is clearly is clearly a quasi low cost solution so that Intel can get down and dirty in the sub-$1000 area. Paul, bless his heart, is exactly right about Intels paranoid strategy. They don't want to give up any segment of the CPU market even if it doesn't yield as much profit as they like for fear they may be left behind...and they like to keep the pressure on the competition...just in case. Remember that the EX and LX chipsets don't support 100MHz only 66. Besides that with the cache on the chip you don't gain that much going to 100Mhz anyway so Intel is clearly going for low cost here. Funny thing is that all they had to do is go back to the good 'ole Pentium MMX at 300MHz on .25u...but then again they feel like they have to burn socket 7. So be it. As far as the K6-3...it's really a souped up K6-2 but with the cache running at clockspeed....should get a nice speed gain but at a $ cost. Mendocino will indeed canibalize the Pentium II. I need to study the die size of the K6-3 vs the Mendocino. Any ideas? Jim

To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (33407)	6/18/1998 10:43:00 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572107

Pravin, I believe the L2 cache size of the K6-3 will be 256k and the Medocino will be 128k.

To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (33407)	6/19/1998 12:01:00 AM
From: Time Traveler	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572107

Motherboard makers are not pissed at anyone. They all start with a reference design from Intel most likely. They just have to cross-reference the parts from that reference design to obtain the lowest cost with minor added or subtracted features, of course. Most important of all, they would all embrace something that are about to become standard with high and reliable volume of CPU production. Time Traveler