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To: Boplicity who wrote (14620)	6/19/1998 11:28:00 PM
From: StockMan	Read Replies (6) \| Respond to of 77400

Greg, Re -- I still have an hard time believing it (Cisco's 40 patents). Chambers is a SALESMAN, whose idea of R&D is if you spend $X you can get what you want. And despite what the IDIOT engineers from Cisco on this thread say about RFC's, RFC's are just bunches of paper without implementations. Cisco has no chance of filing a counter suit against LU. If LU were to look more closely, they'd probably find a whole bunch of patents that Cisco has violated. Like I said, Cisco had better settle. They may win 1 or 2 patents but 8, not a chance. Also Cisco will have to begin re-implementing the infringements (if they can). Maybe they'll HIRE another 2000 or so engineers to work on maintaining and porting their bloated IOS. Stockman

To: Boplicity who wrote (14620)	6/19/1998 11:34:00 PM
From: Frank A. Coluccio	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 77400

Gregory, These companies have very few patents to speak of, in relative terms, because they are not close to pure science, as in the sense that Bell Labs, Sandia Labs and IBM's T.J. Watson Jr. were, IMO. It reminds me of MCI's coat-tailing ATT's developments during the period prior to the divestiture. Most of the leg work and field testing was done by T, and the OCC's would come in behind them and offer me-too services without incurring the costs of development. Nice work when you can get it. Competition is very peculiar in some ways in this respect, when the dominant players (ok, the monopoly players, if you insist) must divulge and often license, for a mere stipend, the fruits of their labor, under mandates. Now watch it folks, how you reply to this one, since CSCO, like MSFT (in a different space) itself is on the verge of filling a similar role w.r.t. monopoly powers in "its" markets. Frank C.