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To: DLL who wrote (18004)6/23/1998 5:52:00 PM
From: Alan Markoff  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 39621
 
DLL;

He has a problem with it their will be no apology from Bob. As Bob once stated to me that I have an obsession with being Jewish, my only obsession is living by Gods word which is wrap around Jewish roots. Also if I was so obsessed as Bob stated about being Jewish why than would I marry my wife her mother is Gentile and Father Jewish so according to Jewish customs she is Gentile, but that aside she might as well be Jewish for she is into Jewish ways and customs more than myself.

Alan



To: DLL who wrote (18004)6/23/1998 6:50:00 PM
From: Chris land  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
<<"Do not lose sight of the fact that you were born 'gentiles'..., utterstrangers to God's chosen community, Israel; and you had no knowledge of, or right to, the promised agreements [covenants] ... But now, through the blood of the Messiah, you are with us inside the circle of God's love ...... (Eph. 2:11-13, Phillips). >>

Without the blood of Jesus, Israel has no more right to the things of God than anyone else. Scripture says, without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins.

Chris



To: DLL who wrote (18004)6/23/1998 7:06:00 PM
From: Alan Markoff  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Dear Donald,
I will put some of Emiles many posts to reveal the problem Alan and I are talking about. The readers can decide if this is Anti-Semitic.

<<To: +Thomas C. White (1975 )
From: +Emile Vidrine
Monday, Mar 17 1997 4:36PM ET
Reply # of 3808

Holocaust mythology and Hollywood historiography are fascinating Jewish subjects for
Pavlovian puppies. No reputable historian, however,has ever claimed that Buchenwald
and Dachau were "death camps". Sounds more like docudrama myths from a TV
anasthesized couch potato.

To: +Emile Vidrine (1998 )
From: +Emile Vidrine
Tuesday, Mar 18 1997 12:34AM ET
Reply # of 3808

The only differnce between the German Nazi racial--religious claims and the Jewish Zionist racial--religious claims is that the Zionist have won. The Zionist have captured the major communication media of the world and have indoctroinated--convinced the majority of Christians that their form of racial salvation and racism is good and Godly. Anyone who dares oppose the racist Zionist claims must be booed as evil and insenitive to Jewish superiority.

There were no "death camps" in the western sector or German territory. All of the "death camps" where Jews were allegedly gassed by the millions in crematoriums were in the eastern sector or the Soviet occupied Zone--Auschwitz etc. The recently opened
Soviet Nazis Archives are revealing glaring contradictions and errors in Jewish claims about the holocaust. The holocaust has been used by the racist state of Israel to further their Zionist agenda. Virtually all of the major historians in England and many in France have fundamentally revised their holocaust historiograph within the last 10 years. Even the top Holocaust historian in Israel now accepts the new figure of 1.5 million. There is no doubt that the Nazis were anti-jewish and anti Gypsy and anti Slavic etc. and illegally brutalized and confiscated the property of these citizens. Many innocent
Jews, Gypies, Poles and other "unter menschen" as the Nazis called them , were murdered during the Nazi era. These facts can be historically established and are not in dispute.

On the other hand the official Holocaust mythology is the claim by the state of Israel that 6 million Jews were gasssed in creamatoriums according to a preconceived governmental plan by the Nazi government called the "Final Solution". That is not a historical fact but a well established myth created by the infinited repetition by Jewish
movie makers in Hollywood. The Jewish myth makers care nothing about the other millions of "alleged" victims because they were Christians and non Jewish. This disparity is a key factor in identifying the myth makers. The official Holocaust myth is a creation by the Hollyood Jewish establishment in collaboration with the Zionist state of Israel. The State of Israel continues to receive reparation payments from the German tax payers based on the 6 million myth. Note that no other agrieved or murdered nationalities such as the gypies, or the Poles or the Russian are privileged to receive any such payments.

That is what is called the HOLOCAUST MYTH.>>

<<eply # of 20636
Mr. Peter Roker, this chap Emile Vidrine is a public figure. Here is a news article about him. He is written about last. This dates from 1995
Five seek first-ever mayor-president position
Jennifer Ann Brown - Contributing Writer
The candidates in the Lafayette mayor-president race have kept USL in mind in the upcoming election.
Lafayette Parish President Walter Comeaux, City Councilman Elmo Laborde, Jr., City Councilman F.V. "Pappy" Landry, Parish Councilman Ed Roy, and Emile Vidrine are the candidates vying for
the newly created position. All were interviewed for The Vermilion.
Comeaux, an 11-year veteran of the parish government system, said that he is concerned with what transpires at USL, that he has been there to help in the past and that he plans on helping in the future.
"I will work closer with the Cajundome commission, and the university," he said. "I understand the importance of all this. This means so much to our community. I am committed 100 percent in so far
as assisting USL, not so far as telling them how to run their business, but in being there when they need us."
Laborde, a USL alumnus, said he plans to create more job opportunities for USL graduates.
"Our best and brightest are leaving Lafayette, and that is not good," said Laborde. "USL produces some excellent graduates. But, we export graduates like Japan exports cars."
Laborde's plans include bringing in companies that will benefit graduates of the computer science department.
"We have one of the best computer science programs in the country, yet we have very few software and computer manufacturers here in Lafayette," he said.
Laborde also maintained that he would cut the utility rates for USL, putting the savings into the faculty and student body.
Landry, now in his third term as city councilman, agreed on lowering USL's utility rates.
"USL is one of the best assets that the city of Lafayette has," said Landry. "It not only offers one of the best means of higher education in the state, but is also a very good tax base for the city of
Lafayette."
Landry stressed that he wanted to work in developing the assets of the Cajundome to bring in a hotel or possibly a convention center.
In addition to utility rate breaks and job placement in Lafayette, Roy said he favored the development of the city into a "promenade area." The area, which would be a part of Lee Avenue,
would connect USL with the downtown area. It would contain a mixture of shops and government offices, reflecting the heritage and culture of the area. The area would also have suppressed
vehicular traffic, Roy said.
"One of my plans is to have a tram running throughout the entire area, tying USL in more firmly to the entire community," said Roy.
Roy agreed that the Lafayette community needed to grow business by placing recent graduates into the positions, and USL's strong educational facility could help.
"I like the track that Dr. (Ray) Authement and Dr. (Gary) Marotta have taken USL on," he said. "It has become more of a research university. I believe that government has to stand back just a little
bit and address the overall group. Anything that we do good for Lafayette will be good for the USL
students."
Vidrine, the only candidate without prior elected service,said he believed that the community needs to returns to "Christian foundations." He also stated that he thinks college students need to focus on Western civilization, staying away from multiculturalism.
"The American civilization is basically an European-Christian civilization," he said, "because of our philosophy, theology, and intellectual commitments, we have always allowed races and other
religions to come in and protect their rights. It is our Christian beliefs."
Vidrine said that as mayor-president, he will not only focus on the needs of Lafayette, but the needs of the country.
"By refocusing, we do more for our educational community for the university," said Vidrine. "Once again, there is a vision and an idealism that the students can strive for."
Copyright 1995 by The VERMILION >>

These are a few of 6 months of lengthy posts like it and some even more vile. There were posts on the Hollywood desire to destroy the world etc.. This is textbook KKK rhetoric if they like it or not. I have told them that Donald Ray Anderson (the man that shot at us)writes the exact same things and someone like Emile jumped in on him while he was seeking the Lord and turned him into a viscous person that wanted to kill Jewish people including children. Bob Sturgeon has never liked us and has stated many times that he has no problem with what Emile posts. Can you see from this small example why we have a problem with that.
May the Lord Yeshua fill your cup with His peace to overflowing,
Nancy



To: DLL who wrote (18004)6/23/1998 8:31:00 PM
From: Sidney Reilly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Read on DLL, it gets better. I see a sort of exaltation of the Jewish people in the way that is interpreted in your translation. Don't you know we are the same in every way? As brothers in Jesus Christ I am every bit as jewish as you if you want to use labels. Paul said that too. You cannot exalt yourselves because of a claim in the flesh that means nothing in the new testament. This flesh we occupy now will be left behind, then we will be in the spirit and how will you prove your physical jewish descent then? We will all be the same as we are all the same now. You are no better than the least of us or no worse. Bob

PS Misunderstand that as I know you will.



To: DLL who wrote (18004)6/23/1998 10:31:00 PM
From: Chris land  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
<<"Do not lose sight of the fact that you were born 'gentiles'..., utterstrangers to God's chosen community, Israel; and you had no knowledge of, or right to, the promised agreements [covenants] ... But now, through the blood of the Messiah, you are with us inside the circle of God's love ...... (Eph. 2:11-13, Phillips). >>

Let's see what differences the scriptures makes between Gentile or Jew.

In those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration. Acts 6:1

1 Consider that they were not called Jews but Hebrews
2. The Hebrews felt they were more important than the Grecians, thus played favorites because they considered their heritage superior.
3. The writer was Luke, a Greek physician.

This got so bad that the apostles had to step in. After much council they elected seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom whom was appointed over the matters.

These seven are: Philip, Prochorus, Nicanor, Timon, Parmenas, Nicolas, and Stephen.

Notice they are not Hebrews, they are not Jews, They are Greeks!!!

And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people.

1. He was a Greek
2. More popular even than some of the apostles

Then there arose certain of the synagogue....disputing with Stephen

1. They were disputing because they were envious
2. They were very jealous that God should use a Greek to teach Jews.

And they were not able to resist the wisdom and the spirit by which he spake
so what did they do

1. Set up false witnesses
2. Stirred up the people
3. Brought him before the council

After his accusers finished the high priest said. Are these things so? What followed next is a bold and classic Christian testimony. Please follow along.

And he said, Men, brethren, and fathers, hearken; the God of glory appeared unto our father Abraham, when he was in Mesopotamia, before he dwelt in Haran. 7:2

Notice he didn't say Abraham the father of the Hebrews or Abraham the father of the Jews. He said our father, meaning that he was as much a son of Abraham as the best Jew that could be found.

Stephen goes on with his discourse about Joseph and his brothers. Now there came a dearth over all the land of Egypt and Canaan, and great affliction: and our fathers found no sustenance. 7:11

Notice he is now referring to the patrairchs as "our fathers".

Next he talks about Moses.

This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A Prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear. 7:36

Christians know he was referring to Jesus

44...our fathers had the tabernacle of witness in the wilderness, as he had appointed.

Which also our fathers that came after brought in with Joshua into the possession of the Gentiles, whom God drave out before the face of our fathers, unto the days of David.

1. Notice the word Gentile is being used to denote the heathen nations.
2. Stephen doesn't assume kinship to these Gentiles.

Now, notice the turn around in verse 51 while speaking to the high priest, the elders and scribes

Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted: and they have slain them which showed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept.

1 He now attributes their fathers as nothing more than murderers
2 Their response instead of repenting was that they "gnashed him with their teeth.
3 Stephen looked up and saw Jesus at the right hand of God
4 They had him executed

My point here is that Stephen whom the Jews called a Gentile (which in their eyes meant inferior) was superior to all of them in the things relating to God.
While the high priest, elders, and scribes, were nothing more than religious persons who hadn't the faintest idea of who God really was.

So what benefit does a Jew have in calling someone a Gentile?

Chris