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To: Zeuspaul who wrote (1522)	6/24/1998 3:04:00 AM
From: Bill/WA	Respond to of 14778

Zues, My son-in-law maintains 300+ computers for a company. Helped me when I reformatted my H/D to install (again) Win95 clean. Yes, he says, the dos CDROM drivers are missing in the OSR2 CD. He added them to the reboot floppy (don't know how or from where), sorry. After reformatting, he copied a file from the 95 CD to a different partition (other than C:\). Next time I have to reformat - I reformat C:\ partition first, then drag that particular file to the clean C:\ partition, therefore no need for a dos CD driver because the Win95 CD drivers are on that file, therefore windows will drive the Win95 CD to complete new clean install. Hope I'm clear to you on this and not telling you something you already know. I'm not that computer literate & he did all the work. Anyway, thanks to you & others for this thread, I've learned alot. Bill BTW, my son-in-law likes Win98 because the CD HAS all of the CD drivers to do a new, clean install.

To: Zeuspaul who wrote (1522)	6/24/1998 10:49:00 AM
From: Spots	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 14778

>>How universal are the CDROM drivers? If one has no documentation for the CD drive how do you make a boot disc with the appropriate drivers? Do they go in the autoexec.bat or config.sys. I think I have seen them in both. To take the second question first, the driver gets loaded in Config.sys, where you give it a name with the D switch (/D:CD0001 or some such). MSCDEX.EXE (Microsoft CD Extension) gets executed in Autoexec.bat. In it you also specify a D switch with the name of the driver as assigned in Config.sys MSCDEX can have more than one D switch if you've loaded more than one CD driver). Here's my config.sys DEVICE=C:\WIN311\HIMEM.SYS /TESTMEM:OFF DEVICE=C:\WIN311\DOS\EMM386.exe NOEMS x=A000-C7FF DOS=HIGH,UMB FILES=60 BUFFERS=15 LASTDRIVE=Z DEVICEHIGH=C:\WIN311\CDS\LTNIDE.SYS /D:MSCD0001 DEVICEHIGH=C:\WIN311\DOS\SETVER.EXE SHELL=C:\WIN311\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\ /p DEVICE=C:\WIN311\IFSHLP.SYS STACKS=9,256 Note the cd driver LTNIDE.SYS. Here's my autoexec.bat C:\WIN311\net start @ECHO OFF LH C:\WIN311\MSCDEX.EXE /S /D:MSCD0001 /V LH C:\Win311\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE 2048 2048 PROMPT $p$g PATH C:\WIN311;C:\WIN311\DOS C:\WIN311\REALS\MOUSE.COM SET TEMP=C:\WIN311\TEMP SET TMP=C:\WIN311\TEMP choice /cYN /tN,5 "Start NTFS " if errorlevel 2 goto fatso: C:\PANOS\NTFSDOS\NTFSDOS.EXE /V :fatso choice /cYN /tY,5 "Start Windows " if errorlevel 2 goto doors: win :doors Note the reference to the driver in MSCDEX.EXE. Looks like you load it rather than executing it. I left the rest of the stuff in because it shows one way to load NTFSDOS conditionally, which I thought might be interesting, but beside the current point. Of course you wouldn't try to load windows from an emergency boot disk. To answer your first question partially, I have sometimes succeeded and sometimes failed using IDE CDROM drivers from one manufacturer's CD on another's. It's always best to have the right driver, obviously. The sound blaster CD drivers work with a bunch of different CDs, I guess because creative outsources to so many different places. I've used SB drivers with non-SB CDs. Also you never know NOTHING about a CD - there's always the id plate, though I admit they often tell very little. Sometimes you can get a driver off the manufacturers web page. SCSI cds have the same problem getting drivers, plus you have to load the SCSI drivers in config.sys as well. Here are my (considerably simpler) files from Win 95 emergency boot CD: Config.sys ; DEVICE=a:\CDs\ltnide.sys /D:MSCD0001 ; Note: /P:addr,irq. 1E8,11; 170,15, etc DEVICE=a:\cds\sbide.sys /D:MSCD0001 /P:170,15 /V Autoexec.bat rem -- /L:<driveletter> switch to assign MSCDEX drive letter MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD0001 /V This is a sort of generic CD boot. I keep all the (IDE) CD rom drivers I can find in a:\CDs, then if one driver won't work I can boot from floppy, edit config.sys to load a different driver, then reboot. BTW, ALWAYS keep EDIT.COM on your boot floppy. Here are files I consider essential: attrib.exe,chkdsk.exe, debug.exe, disksave.exe (replaces a boot sector), edit.com, fdisk.exe, format.com, regedit.exe, scandisk.exe, and NTFSDOS files. And, of course, mscdex.exe Spots