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To: Chip McVickar who wrote (267)	6/24/1998 2:47:00 PM
From: Henry Volquardsen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3536

Chip, Very interesting discussion and one I would love to participate in but unfortunately am fixated by the fantasy represented by the comment the Red Sox will beat the Yankies and win the World Series Please tell me you are not one of them? I'll be forced to point out that the last time the RedSux won a World Series the Kaiser still had a shot. Henry

To: Chip McVickar who wrote (267)	6/24/1998 4:03:00 PM
From: Jerry in Omaha	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3536

Chip, <<The fate of human societies as studied from historical economics is a field which has lost most of its following. It is also very difficult intellectual task. That is to find correlations in the movement of human society.>> The interesting thing about Diamond's book is the notable lack of arm chair theorizing; the dude knows his field. Jared Diamond is an evolutionary biologist who studies bird populations around the world, but mostly in New Guinea. I believe that you will find his book to be a refreshing break from any notions you may indulge with respect to old mental tools like historical economics. Perhaps it deserves to be moved to the top of your "must read" list. Even though contemplation of a "Science of History" may appear to be a losing proposition of a postmodern reconstruction of the old SciFi notion of "Psychohistory," or the prediction of the certainty of the future as a function of the acquisition a critical information threshold as was propounded by Isaac Asimov, in his famous work the Foundation Trilogy, it most certainly is not. Diamond's book has forehead-smacking obviousness to it and adheres to ancient instructions found in the Ta Chuan / The Great Treatise, a section of the oldest known book on the planet, the I Ching: "8. By means of the easy and the simple we grasp the laws of the whole world. When the laws of the whole world are grasped, therein lies perfecton." Jerard P