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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (18151)	6/24/1998 8:10:00 PM
From: Father Terrence	Respond to of 39621

Guess what Emile? BOTH are false! "The Crucifixion of Jesus is the central doctrine of the Christian Faith. If Jesus was not crucified, then Christianity is false. If Jesus was crucified, then Mohammad and Islam are false." FT

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (18151)	6/25/1998 12:37:00 AM
From: Raymond James Norris	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 39621

The Crucixion of Jesus is an historical fact but Mohammad and the Koran deny that the Crucifixion ever occurred. You're in waters unchartered. This is not a subject I am currently discussing with other members and I can't carry on 5 discussions at once. But to answer your question, the Qur'an does say Jesus was not crucified but that God placed someone in his place that the Romans believed was Jesus. We know Jesus prayed for God to save him (God, remove this cup of death from me)and that his prayer was answered (an angel was sent, strengthening Jesus). There is historical evidence that many Christians believed Jesus had not died but were driven out as heretics for their beliefs. I am not yet at this juncture so I'm not going to start listing proof of my view or the contradictions of the 4 Gospel accounts of what did occur. But when we get to it, I'd be more than pleased to spell out the proof. The empirical proof. Ray