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To: ANALYST10 who wrote (16032)	6/26/1998 9:05:00 AM
From: Turboe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50264

I think we are all aware of the risks of BB's-- I have enjoyed your posts (other than slams and you thinking highly of S.D.-- Have you seen the Axxess stock dive?) but to dismiss all BB's is plain dumb. I raise VC ($1,000,000 to $25,000,000) for small companies. I have learned to do DD (why waste my time?) and basically all small companies are crap shoots. I mean, how many VC deals actually make it? Not many. Same here. Basically these BB's bypass me and go directly to market. Most of mine have an exit strategy of an IPO or buy-out. Different avenues same path, si? ALL BB's are risky-- but the rewards can be substantial. And anyone risking anything more than they can afford to lose is a fool....

To: ANALYST10 who wrote (16032)	6/26/1998 9:26:00 AM
From: sandstuff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50264

I think it is reasonable to evaluate what a person's motives are when they spend all their time on one thread dispensing wisdom. Let's not forget the mms have their "paid promoters" on these threads. These hired guns have deception and mind warfare down to a fine art. Why don't you tell us more about yourself? It might help us better understand your true motives.

To: ANALYST10 who wrote (16032)	6/26/1998 10:03:00 AM
From: Gary Jacobs	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 50264

analyst10, thanks for stopping by and providing those experienced insights. i'll digest your post for awhile and come back with some further discussion. appreciate your informative participation in this thread. gary (blinders off, reserving the personal right to agree/disagree)

To: ANALYST10 who wrote (16032)	6/26/1998 10:21:00 AM
From: Howard C.	Respond to of 50264

Overall I think you have presented a useful discussion on this subject. I do not agree with your statement that "it doesn't matter if people are paid to hype or who slam because they are short." Please tell me the difference between that and the evil promoters you have described. Yes, we sure have the first amendment, but if everyone here fully disclosed their interests, motivations, and corporate relationships, the "newbies" who invest their IRAs might have a better shot at more objective evaluation. What bothers me most around here is the condescending attitude on both sides.

To: ANALYST10 who wrote (16032)	6/26/1998 4:51:00 PM
From: Kurt_Ruckus	Respond to of 50264

ANALYST10: Still waiting for those phone numbers.... It's been a day and a half.

To: ANALYST10 who wrote (16032)	6/28/1998 3:05:00 PM
From: Seth L.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50264

A10 I have been reading your posts and I enjoy your ability to express yourself. I have read a lot about DGIV still have more digging to go. I agree with your assessment on non reporting companies and I am not here to defend DGIV, but I think you are missing the point on why most people invest in bbs. Its the gambler mentality for the most part. Yes there are some that invest retirement funds in bbs, this may or not be wise depending on the persons ability to see their funds possibly slip away. Unfortunately there are also people who place at risk more than just discretionary funds into microcap. These are the investors for the most part that were suede by brokers, friends, and family, happens all the time.This is why you can get emotional posts that attack anyone that says anything remotely negative about a company. I hope you do realize however that there is a sizable amount of investors that follow bbs for the thrill of the hunt. They do not over invest they work with a percentage of their portfolio earmarked for high risk. You stated the following which of all your comments I take a little exception to In such cases, some responsibility needs to be placed on investment professionals. At my firm, if you want to buy a penny stock, even if it is unsolicited, the broker will ask you are you aware of the risks, are you prepared to lose your entire investment and what is your suitability to make this investment. The broker then if he feels the client is not suitable (based upon specific standards) will not allow the execution of the trade.Example: John Smith is retired and living on Social Security of $300 per month and has $10,000 in the bank and wants to invest the whole $10,000 in DGIV or MSFT for that matter, he will not let him make the investment. All industry professionals should be that responsible. Never mind, I could go on for days. I appreciate the fact that brokers at your firm will not sell a bb unless the investor qualifies and understands fully the risks. The same statement of risk however should be stated to their clients if they are buying blue chips or bonds not just unsolicited bb trades. Your statement "that all professionals should be that responsible" is naive at best. Wall street from time to time runs red with brokers blood that are not making their numbers. In this day and age when the market and investors are thriving you do not see nearly as much red .Even your firm has brokers I'm sure that are wondering if the manager is going to call them into their office today and say this is not working out. This is exactly why disclosure forms and waiver forms became so popular about 10 years ago. Protecting the clients interest and informing the client is essential. As for the 10,000 most every broker wouldn't invest it all but 90% given the opportunity will take 7,000 of it. The other 10% are either top brokers that do not even talk to clients with less than a million net worth or will be selling cars in a few weeks. Thanks for the insights to all the other info . You what ever your motives are for real. I am still reading up and investigating DGIV. Good luck to all here. Seth