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Microcap & Penny Stocks : BASHERS POST THEM HERE!!!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Dave Gore who wrote (13)	6/29/1998 10:48:00 AM
From: Henry Volquardsen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 390

No offense Dave but if you have done great dd on a company the bashers should be easy to refute. That was the point of my post. I have had stocks get attacked and go down. And I will tell you from very bitter experience that the stocks that were attacked and did go down almost always turned out to have problems that the pro poster did not uncover in their due diligence. I've also been in stocks that had sound fundamentals and the bashers failed to gain a foothold. I am a big non-believer in conspiracy theories. Most of the stocks that people claim to be the victims of bashers turn out to have been more hope than reality in the first place. I don't know any of the stocks you mentioned. But my strong inclination is to suspect that there were in fact fundamental reasons the stock performed poorly. Shorters have no reason to attack healthy companies, there are so many sickly stocks that make easier targets. Also for what it is worth I find it curious how often market makers appear as villains in short seller scenarios. Market makers could make a lot more money in a stock that is soaring than it one tanking. They have no motivation to destroy a company. The only realistic complaint about market makers is the width of their spreads. But that is part of the price you pay for dealing in thinly traded BB stocks. FWIW I know a little about how market makers operate. I am a market maker. Not in equities but in currencies and interest rate derivatives.

To: Dave Gore who wrote (13)	6/29/1998 4:20:00 PM
From: Alastair McIntosh	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 390

Agreed bashers are dangerous, but you NEVER HAVE TO SELL a stock, do you? Many of us learned the dangers of taking part in "dump and pump" stocks but we never HAD to sell! It was our choice. HOWEVER, the anger we have with hypsters and manipulative MM's is that they are affecting stocks, many of which are very bad stocks... that WE ALREADY SHORTED!!!! Big difference here. They come in after we already SHORT a stock! Say, you do hours and days of DD. You get lots of long term SHORTERS in a stock. You see lots of SELLING coming in, and the stock does not move one bit; in fact it goes UP 20% for the day! SELLS OUTNUMBER BUYS 3 to 1 and the stock price goes UP! Blatant manipulation... YOu get the idea. Innuendo, especially clever creation of GREED and HOPE that is constant and has a malicious intent to rally a stock is what we hate. It is already an uneven playing field on the BB: OTC. WIth most BB stocks MM's forcing us to sell for much less on the BID than the ASK, we already start off in the hole, so when we do great DD and intend to SHORT a componay long term, it is unjust to have to fight all these positive elements....unjust and infuriating.