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To: miraje who wrote (262)	6/30/1998 3:33:00 PM
From: Mama Bear	Respond to of 13060

""Live free or die". NH has the right attitude." I've always wondered how the fellows at the NH state penitentiary feel when they're manufacturing license plates. <g> Barb

To: miraje who wrote (262)	6/30/1998 4:03:00 PM
From: I Am John Galt	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 13060

Let me begin by saying that I am, in fact, out of the RMIL fiasco (thank goodness). James, the idealism of the libertarian party is very sound, and I'm happy they stand for the points that they do: Principles LIFE: We believe that all individuals have the right to control their own lives and live in whatever manner they choose, as long as they do not interfere with the identical rights of others. This is not a new concept invented by the libertarian party. Democratic liberals like Rawls and Locke have been arguing this for centuries. The point behind government is to define where the line should be drawn in terms of the "identical rights" of others. The thing I like about the libertarian party is that they associate themselves with a given ideology. More liberals will jump on the bandwagon, and the party will continue to grow. LIBERTY: The only proper functions of government are the protection of the people from actual foreign or domestic threats to their lives and freedoms; and the protection of their individual rights, namely -- life, property, and liberty of speech and action. That's the opposite of progressivism, which I tend to agree with. Without the balance of libertarianism and progressivism, libertarianism becomes what even Locke would live in fear of. You see it today; the degradation of some morals are apparent, and state legitimacy is falling. Now, I do not believe that progressives have the answer, but you will always see a backlash when it is apparent that liberalism isn't working. Progressivism, IMO, is a necessary evil. It is a necessary evil in order to keep the ideology of the country intact. PROPERTY: The only economic system compatible with the protection of individual human rights is the free market; therefore, the fundamental right of individuals to own property and to enjoy the rewards of their just earnings should not be compromised. Problem is, there is a necessity for restraint on the free market, and even the most radical of libertarians can see that. The free market, without government regulation, cannot survive as a free market. This is all obvious information, and I'm just respouting it because some libertarians forget to realize this. Without the US government, Microsoft would be allowed to run amok, which would crush any hopes of competition against it. The driving force behind the stability of this country is its economy, and if monopolies are formed, polarization occurs, and the communist manifesto becomes the will of the people. In other thoughts about libertarianism, points like separating school and state is idealistic, and implausible in this day and age. The statements made by many libertarians that, "Any amendment should be one that reaffirms and strengthens the beliefs of the original framers in limited government", is a difficult one to swallow. The funny thing is, I think all three parties have good ideas. Legalizing drugs is the only one that I find rather scary. With the legalization of drugs, people tend to forget that many other people's rights are infringed upon when one person abuses them. Although the percentage is small(trust me, it's more than 1% of the people who use drugs abuse them), there is still the possibility that others get hurt by the actions of one. Although it may help with the criminal element, it will ruin the lives of the few who cannot stop. Take it from someone who has witnessed firsthand what it can do to a hardworking decent man. Do not get me wrong, there are many aspects of liberalism I like, including where they stand on property taxes (especially in New Hampshire). I am not a libertarian, but I welcome any Libertarian information you have. If it is valid, I will put it on the nh.com website if you email me links or information at mgregg@nh.com. Points of interest: nh.com - past candidates nh.com - the 2000 primary website We get into the millions in terms of hits per month, and we'll be featuring a great deal on the libertarian candidates as the race to the 2000 Presidency unfolds. Good luck, Matty Gregg