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Technology Stocks : How high will Microsoft fly? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: mozek who wrote (8832)	7/1/1998 12:34:00 PM
From: ToySoldier	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 74651

Mozek/Mike, Well at least we know why you are denial. Of course you dont want to hear that MSFT is in trouble. I wouldn't want to hear that my company is going to go through rough times either. Unlike you , I work directly with the customer base that you sell your products to. My self and my company (which I will mention is larger than MSFT) works with the large enterprise customers, the medium small customers, and many of the other vendors in the computing industry. I am telling you that MSFT has never been seriously threatened in the past few years like they are going to be threatened over the next 2 years. I find it amazing that you and the other pro-MSFTers cannot answer how MSFT is going to convince the corporate customer to to purchase NT5 when it is likely to be released only a few short months before Jan 1 2000. Sorry, but you obviously dont understand how businesses operate their IT operations. You want to go into denial that industry analysts concur that MSFT NT5 will not be a success for at least 1 year after its release. And, in typical MSFT mentality, you will generally catagorize MSFT negative OBJECTIVE news and opinions as drivel. Since you actually work for MSFT, ANSWER THE QUESTIONS instead of going on the defensive. Our company is large enough that we know where MSFT is going in their development over the next couple years. We have already been told about NT5.1. I'm telling you what your customers are actually planning on doing with NT5 and Win98. They aren't! Sorry Mike to hear that you cannot provide any objective information. I am willing to listen to your arguments on how NT5 Win98 will actually be successful and just take it for what its worth - likely MSFT FUD and Propaganda. For the rest of you, please take note how my points have yet to be responded to with counter-points. So guess who is right. Good luck to you though Mike in MSFT. You will need it. Toy

To: mozek who wrote (8832)	7/1/1998 3:15:00 PM
From: cheryl williamson	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 74651

mozek, MSFT should quit while they're ahead: stick to selling word processors to secretaries & games & spreadsheets to home users. They are clearly out of their league in corporate computing. It looks like MSFT is the one that got "blown away" by SUNW's Enterprise 450 (SUNW's lowest-end server): J. Crew Selects Enterprise 450/Solaris over NT sun.com Clearly Superior to Windows NT In the process of selecting a new workgroup solution, Hansen considered both Windows NT and UNIX alternatives. "I was surprised how much Microsoft cared about winning this business," he said. "They were beside themselves trying to convince me that Windows NT was reliable, scalable, and so on. But you can't get around the fact that their core operating system simply isn't that stable. I have yet to see a Windows NT server that doesn't get re-booted frequently." Sun, on the other hand, builds availability features into all its products-from the reliability of the SolarisTM operating environment to the high-uptime RAS (reliability, availability, serviceability) features of its servers and storage systems. "Even Sun's workgroup server has more built-in availability features than high-end servers from other vendors," said Hansen. "The Sun Enterprise 450 has two separate device bays on two separate controllers, so you don't lose your data if one component fails." In terms of scalability, said Hansen, "there is no way Microsoft's story compares with Sun's. With Sun, you get near-linear performance scalability as you add servers and storage, and you never have to touch the operating system or recompile the applications as you scale up. The same software runs across the entire Sun server line." Hansen also noted that Windows NT servers do not scale well to accommodate different tasks. "You need separate machines for separate tasks," he said. "Mail, DNS, SQL server, calendar server-with Microsoft they're all individual machines; with Sun, they're all in one box."