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To: Time Traveler who wrote (33889)	7/3/1998 12:19:00 AM
From: kash johal	Respond to of 1573927

Time traveler, Thanks for the clarification as I was trying to make a generic statement and Bill may have misinterpreted it. There indeed are commercial parts sold in ceramic packages with identical assembly to hi-rel parts. Its the testing, documentation, and qualification that makes a difference. For the non-technical among us. There is the Military TOILET SEAT, HAMMER, you name it. there are some things called GENERIC drugs (which by definition are well defined and tested). It may even surprise some folks on this thread that the COLA you don't buy at the STORE is bottled by the same person who bottles the COKE/PEPSI you do buy. I could go on and on and on......................but I won't. Peace and lets all move on to discussing the real issues of the day.

To: Time Traveler who wrote (33889)	7/3/1998 1:36:00 AM
From: Dale J.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573927

Time Traveler has never heard of this Bausch-Lomb stuff. Are you making that up or twisting the truth a little bit? Time Traveler, If I recollect, Bausch-Lomb sold two identical products (I think it was the contact lens solution) in different packages calling one a deluxe the other standard and of course charged different amounts to the same stores and locations. It was clearly an illegal deception. Now can Time Traveler or anyone explain to a non-engineer what intel is accused of doing? Dale

To: Time Traveler who wrote (33889)	7/3/1998 7:09:00 AM
From: Bill Jackson	Respond to of 1573927

Time traveller, The Bausch and Lomb is true and was about the same lenses being sold packed in 2 ways to 2 different markets at two different prices. Quite often the mil parts are made on a separate line entirely with far more inspection and even different substrates and other variations to give greater temp tolerance and radiation tolerance. Excess MIL dice can and were packed for civilian and commercial sales. Of course part of this MIL stuff is the trail of test data that adds to the cost. However the analogy is also flawed here about Intel. Bill