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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Rambi who wrote (23205)	7/3/1998 11:36:00 PM
From: Krowbar	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

<< He wanted her to do housework and cook? What kind of demanding SOB was he? What happened to passion, communion of the souls, fusion of like minds??? >> Screw all that stuff. I want a good meal. Of course, I am willing to do my share, if necessary. Mind exercises, passion, etc. can come after the belly is full. If I recall correctly you work full time, so not cooking a meal a couple of times a week is understandable, but I think that I am seeing a lot of people that are really getting lazy. There are a lot of people out there that mostly do nothing all day, and expect a spouse that will treat them like royalty, and wonder why it ends in divorce. I believe that if both are working equal hours, the housework should be shared equally. If one person works, the other should do the bulk of the housework. It's not that tough anymore with microwaves, frozen foods, automatic washers and dryers, etc. I have no use for people who do not want to contribute something useful to our society, and there are a lot of them out there, and I think it is growing. Hey, we got the first significant rain today in 108 days, about an inch. My battery quit today, and I stood out in the rain to fix it and it felt great to get wet. I bet Christine thinks that I am crazy, but it really feels great after not feeling it for months. Del

To: Rambi who wrote (23205)	7/5/1998 6:41:00 PM
From: Grainne	Respond to of 108807

Penni, what I think is that we tend to idealize people in cyberspace. We all present our most appealing qualities to each other here, and when the more honest among us bring up the little practical details like moldy showers and dinners left uncooked as being potential down sides to women who spend a lot of time writing and dreaming and nurturing people they have never actually met, these disturbing details are easily pushed aside because the men here have as much interest in believing in fantasy women as we have in believing in fantasy men (or used to)! I know that once in awhile I do not do housework or some other typically feminine task just to make sure my husband really loves and accepts my wild spirit, without anything practical in the package. I am not in a self-analytical mood at the moment, however, so I don't feel much like figuring out why. Probably something to do with wanting to be loved unconditionally, even though that is not really the underlying contract in marriages. I suspect that it is a lot easier to fall in love on the internet than it is to stay in love in real life. None of the difficulties of reality interfere, and what a rush and thrill it all is! I am sure Del's maid did not paint a real picture of lying around most of the day watching soap operas, so it was a real shock to her cyber romeo, who probably had plenty of faults and funny smells and weird idiosyncrasies that he didn't bother to share online, either. It will be interesting to see whether relationships that start on the internet are as stable or long lasting as the ones that do not.