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To: PROLIFE who wrote (257)7/8/1998 12:52:00 PM
From: Jane Hafker  Respond to of 638
 
Well, DCF, I hope that you will respect my discernment enough to realize that what I experienced was the Book of Acts redone, and the exact same experience as in Asuza Street, from what I've read.

Sgt. Sunshine was an extreme case of a very forgiven man, who knew no limits. I would imagine somewhere now he is a preacher.

I don't know about huckster shows. They are going on now and I have left enough rooms that the Lord and I have a perfect agreement. I won't go to any more of them and He won;t have to listen to my incessant griping as result.

The Lord be with you. I am not taken in by religious hucksters, and I hope you have never gotten that impression of me. If so, you are greatly deceived in your evaluation.

:)



To: PROLIFE who wrote (257)7/9/1998 12:26:00 AM
From: Jane Hafker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 638
 
DCF, it is pointless to argue about speaking in tongues with me, since it is very much a part of my relationship with the Lord and always has been, and the more I do, the more I find myself in RIGHT relationship with Him. So, of course, the bashing that speaking in tongues has received since l970 is difficult to cope with.

I have been in rooms where the religious have faked such things, and it cuts through the air like a knife of God's displeasure. Likewise, I've twice heard to women thrill out what I in the first second thought to be faked tongues until the Holy Spirit of God Himself almost paralyzed everyone in the room with His Presence as these women spoke in tongues.

It would be pretty bizarre for American Christians to be expected to speak in a language spoken in some remote tribe whenno one in America would know the language anyway, would need it anyway, and therefore it would be a complete and utter waste of speaking a language no one knew. That is not the point. I don't understand Angel, either, but I've heard Angel talk through tongues, and felt angels all around as a result.

I would say that if you demand that people only exercise this most precious and wonderful experience in performance of uttering a known language only , and that for the sole reason of some immigrant in the room that cannot speak English, that truly the whole idea of what it is is lost. That's sad. But because it is lost in jive and bass guitars and entertaining humorous preaching, does not mean that I plan to give it up, and could I find a group who exercised this wonderful simple act to commune with God more directly, I would be very, very thrilled to find them.

So, obviously we feel differently, and I can see that you associated what I said here with fools putting on a show because they did not speak Papua New Guinea dialect with a Papue New Guinea native newly to America in the room, who otherwise would not have understood the conversations. That, to me, purely reduces the entire experience to intellectualism and semantic curiousity.

Back to my original point, that was not why the people thought they were drunk. Speaking in foreign languages is not associated with drunkeness. It is associated with learning and studies and cosmopolitanism I just don't understand the stretch at all, associating speaking in known dialects as being compared to an exhilerated state of utter joy with Jesus Christ.

If you care to discuss tongues here, please do. This is not a place where we can't say a word that everyone doesn't agree with, and if you want to discuss it, fine.