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To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (21322)7/9/1998 8:07:00 PM
From: Robert O  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 70976
 
Someone mentioned this but I haven't seen whole article here yet, so here it is:

Pulled from the street.com
Herb on TheStreet: Is a Preannouncement in the Cards for Applied Materials?
By Herb Greenberg
Senior Columnist
7/9/98 8:43 AM ET

You can't help but wonder whether Applied Materials (AMAT:Nasdaq) is in denial over the state of its industry -- or whether it's got some phenomenal trick up its sleeve. A month ago this column suggested that bad news was in store for Applied and ASM Lithography (ASMLF:Nasdaq), of the Netherlands. Taiwan Semiconductor (TSM:NYSE ADS) is a big customer of both, and I had heard that it was said to be seeking to push out the delivery of equipment until the end of the year -- and then only after renegotiating prices. The very next day ASM preannounced a lousy quarter, citing a sharp slowdown in Taiwan. Since then, Lam (LRCX:Nasdaq), KLA-Tencor (KLAC:Nasdaq) and just about every other chip-equipment maker has either preannounced or announced layoffs and writeoffs.

The notable exception? You guessed it -- good ole AMAT. But the betting in some investment circles is that Applied, which hasn't ever preannounced during this down cycle, won't be able to remain mum for long. Next week the chip- equipment makers will meet in San Francisco for their annual Semicon West trade show. "It's inevitable that AMAT preannounces its July quarter," Morgan Stanley analyst Jay Deahna told my colleague, Eric Moskowitz.

Applied officials couldn't be reached, but if the company doesn't preannounce, the real shock could be what it finally does formally announce. One knowledgeable source said conditions have deteriorated so quickly in recent weeks that "they don't know what their numbers are." The few analysts who don't have buys on the stock have taken machetes to their earnings estimates. BT Alex. Brown's Byron Walker, for example, sliced his estimate on the July quarter to 17 cents per share from 23 cents, while reducing the entire year to $1.16 per share from $1.36. "Once believed to be a two-quarter problem, the downturn is now thought to be prolonged into the mid-1999 timeframe," he says.

On the foreign front, the company is being buffeted by the slump in Taiwan, which accounted for 29% of last quarter's sales. At home the news isn't much better from Intel (INTC:Nasdaq), which historically has accounted for 10% of the industry's worldwide orders. Walker says it's putting pressure on all of its vendors by canceling "a large number" of orders. In cases where it was contractually obligated to take delivery, "it has done so, but has not installed the equipment," he says. "This will slow down any recovery in equipment orders."

Walker says Intel is also putting pressure on the equipment companies to carry spare parts inventory that it normally bought outright. What's more, more than half Applied's biz comes from the construction of new fabs. "And you look at KLA," muses one observer. "They get 80% of their business from existing fabs, which is a good thing in a bad cycle -- and they're disappointing. What do you think will happen to guys like Applied that get most of their business from new fabs?"

Ever since the Asian crisis broke Applied has been trying to put a positive spin on the story, suggesting that the downturn was just temporary. While its stock has slipped, it's still well above where it was two years ago when quarterly earnings were higher and currently trades at a premium to its other large-cap peers. Just to get in sync would require a decline of another 20%, Walker says. So, why hasn't the company fessed up to reality? "This industry is populated by people who are fundamentally optimists,'' responds one analyst.
Based on its stock, the same could be said of its shareholders.
Optimism is an admired trait for investors as long as it doesn't cloud reality.
Short Positions

End of Article
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p.s.That Bob,M.D. guy seems pretty smart for a, uh, doctor and all ;-)



To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (21322)7/9/1998 9:40:00 PM
From: Justa Werkenstiff  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 70976
 
Brian: AMAT already pre-announced and guided street to .20 - .23 during the last cc. So AMAT is going to pre-announce again another 10% to 15% shortfall and the stock is going to tank to $12 as a result?

If that is the case, why don't I hear any talk about shorting AMAT? This should be easy money for all the bears short term or otherwise. Truth be told, there are no true bears on AMAT -- just closet bulls shopping hard for a better price that fits their notion of value. And that is a big problem of late for those expecting the big tankaroo. There are just too many "wanabe" longs in the AMAT aisle.



To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (21322)7/10/1998 10:44:00 AM
From: Teri Skogerboe  Respond to of 70976
 
TSMC, Formosa, Others Show Taiwan Feels Asia's Pinch

Taipei, July 10 (Bloomberg) -- In the space of a few days, Taiwan's
largest semiconductor maker, insurer and plastics company said sales
tumbled in June.

Three of the island's biggest banks said they set aside more than $100
million to offset mounting bad loans.

And Acer Inc., whose personal computers sport what is probably Taiwan's best-known international brand name, logged its worst month since January.

Halfway through 1998, cracks are starting to appear in what once seemed like Asia's safest havens: Taiwan, its companies and its stock market. Weakening currencies and slowing growth across the rest of Asia are starting to take their toll.

"One can't help but believe that the downturn in Asia's economies will
hurt company sales in Taiwan,'' said Sam Webster, an analyst with Credit Suisse First Boston.

Granted, Taiwan is doing a lot better than many of its neighbors.

The economy, driven by exports of computer chips, PCs, chemicals and
textiles, is likely to grow by more than 5 percent this year even as
South Korea, Indonesia and others slog through recession. And not all
Taiwanese companies are hurting.

Yet the results reported in the past few days show Taiwan can't chart
its economic course alone. Many investors have been betting it can: In
the past month, the benchmark TWSE Index rose about 11 percent in dollar terms, even as similar benchmarks in Malaysia and the Philippines tumbled that much.

Overall, the results are coming in along with expectations,'' said Peter Tsao, the branch manager at ING Barings. ''Fundamentally, there is weakening, but that's to be expected.''

It may take as long as three years for Taiwan corporate profits to
bounce back completely, Tsao said. Until then, ''hold on tight,'' he
said.

Pinch

From electronics to plastics to banking, many Taiwanese industries are feeling the pinch.

Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., the second-largest stock in
Taiwan's benchmark stock index and a bellwether for Taiwan's hi-tech
export industry, said that sales dropped 26 percent to NT$3.02 billion
(US$88 million) in June from a month earlier, to the lowest in more than a year. It's share price is down 34 percent this year in local currency terms.

United Microelectronics Corp., TSMC's closest rival, said sales dropped 40 percent and Formosa Plastics Corp., one of the biggest polyvinyl chloride makers in the world, said sales fell 1.3 percent from May.

Not every company had a lousy month.

For example, Mitac International Corp., which makes sub- US$1,000
personal computers for Compaq Computer Corp., said sales in June hit a
record, up 32 percent from May to NT$4.02 billion.

The electronics sector was a mixed bag,'' Tsao said.

Flows

That mixed bag already has some foreign investors pulling back.

According to stock exchange figures, foreign institutions sold a net
NT$1.57 billion of shares in April, a net NT$8.3 billion in May and a
net NT$13 billion in June.

As these investors rushed in and then pulled out, stocks see- sawed. The TWSE surged 15 percent in the first two months of the year, only to surrender the gains in the following months. The index is now down 3.7 percent year-to-date in local currency terms, and down 8.9 percent in U.S. dollar terms.

Asia Bonds

For some banks, the past year's slump in Asian currencies is starting to bite.

Taiwan's three largest publicly-listed banks, Chang Hwa Commercial Bank, First Commercial Bank and Hua Nan Commercial Bank -- reported sharply lower profits after setting aside NT$3.82 billion to cover losses on Asia ex-Taiwan bond and loan portfolios.

The financial storm is squeezing banks' earnings,'' said Jerry Cheng,
fund manager at First Global Investment Trust Co., which runs NT$20
billion in assets. ''Really, we can't expect anything exciting about
them.''

For all that, Taiwan boasts some of the strongest exporters in Asia, a
sound financial system, and US$84.5 billion in foreign exchange
reserves, the world's fourth-largest hoard. Able to export and get
credit when many of Asia's other companies are hobbled by dysfunctional financial systems and trading mechanisms, some Taiwanese companies will prosper.

We're still looking for an upside rally in the second half,'' Tsao
said.

06:39:32 07/10/1998
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