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To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (34260)	7/10/1998 9:16:00 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1571808

Re: "Well, I'm surprised people aren't more excited about this. The Xeon is only 5-10% faster than the PII. I'm sure the K7 will be much faster." The Xeon is probably MUCH more that 5-10% faster than a PII in MPU systems. That's where it is intended to be used. If you look at single processor banchmarks then you will get the wrong comparison. As for the K7, I expect it will be well behind Intel's offering when it (the K7) finally ships. I'm not refering to Merced, but rather Coppermine, Tanner and Willamette. Also, AMD's design engineers are jumping ship about as fast as they can. Who's going to stick around for more humilation? People stick around for 3 things. 1) Salary 2) Stock options 3) Job satisfaction #1 AMD can't pay competatively cause they have to keep Jerry in fresh limo's. #2 Don't make me laugh. Look at AMD's 10 year chart. #3 Need I say more? AMD has to be the most depressing environment in the Valley. Add to this the aggravation of watching Jerry rake in 10's of $Millions on his repriced options while the rest of the crowd sucks hind tit. You can't blame the designers for leaving. What fool is going to stay there? EP

To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (34260)	7/10/1998 9:45:00 PM
From: FJB	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1571808

Pravin, Do you think they are working with VIA and Microsoft for multi-processor support? Bob

To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (34260)	7/13/1998 2:55:00 PM
From: Petz	Respond to of 1571808

Will people get excited about K7 demo at Comdex? Somewhat, if Intel doesn't demo its 7th generation x86, the Williamette. But they probably will have a Katmai demo. The Intel folks are probably counting on Katmai to generate their excitement, but if the K7 runs circles around it... Petz

To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (34260)	7/13/1998 8:07:00 PM
From: Tony Viola	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571808

Pravin, >>>"The Xeon is only 5-10% faster than the PII. I'm sure the K7 will be much faster." Xeon was not designed to benchmark or compete with the PII. Rather, it's the Pentium Pro replacement, and early tests with heavy duty benchmarks like Oracle database programs, Internet web servers and OLTP (on-line transaction processing) programs have Xeon based servers at around 2X the performance of Pentium Pro based ones...at similar prices. Early indications are that they are also kicking Alpha ass re performance, and stomping all over Alpha in terms of price/performance. I expected the latter. The former is major gravy for Intel. Check out (admittedly, Intel data): intel.cz Re Xeon being only 5 - 10% faster than PII, it depends on the benchmark. There are benchmarks on which a Pentium (or a K6) is as fast as a mainframe. However, it's apples and oranges. Re K7 ever competing with Xeon, AMD has a long row to hoe, starting with yields and reliability. These were pretty sorry for the first year + on K6. The heavy duty (better known as mission critical) applications, will only be trusted to the company whose CPU chips have a known history of top yields and reliability (AKA Intel). Tony

To: Pravin Kamdar who wrote (34260)	7/13/1998 8:29:00 PM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 1571808

Pravin - "Well, I'm surprised people aren't more excited about this. The Xeon is only 5-10% faster than the PII. I'm sure the K7 will be much faster." Here's a measure of the speed of the Xeon processor - in a SERVER benchmark. Please note that the XEON has been designed into many systems by many vendors. Can you post the K7 design wins? Paul {=============================} Monday July 13, 9:05 am Eastern Time Company Press Release Mylex Offers World's Fastest Raid Controller in Non-Captive Market Segment, According to TPC-C Performance Results For New Unisys 4-Way Xeon Server FREMONT, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 13, 1998--Mylex Corporation (Nasdaq:MYLX - news), the world's leading RAID controller vendor in the non-captive network systems marketplace, today announced that new TPC-C performance benchmarks for a Unisys 4-way Intel Xeon server shows that Mylex's DAC960PJ is the world's fastest non-captive RAID controller. TPC-C, which is a rigorous benchmark conducted under supervision of the Transaction Processing Performance Council (http://www.tpc.org), provides an indication of real-world server performance in On-line Transaction Processing (OLTP) environments. The server, the Unisys Aquanta QS/2 Server, achieved 17,700.43 tpmC (transactions per minute) at a cost of only $26.21/tpmC. ''Numerous industry benchmark tests, including TPC-C, Ziff-Davis ServerBench(tm) and Intel IOMETER(tm), confirm that the DAC960PJ sets the standard in performance for enterprise-class RAID applications,'' said Eric Herzog, Mylex senior director of market development. ''The DAC960PJ complements the exceptional performance of the Intel XEON processor, making it an ideal solution for mid-range and enterprise-class servers.'' DAC960PJ Delivers Record-Setting Performance The DAC960PJ is currently the world's highest performance RAID controller in the non-captive market segment. The DAC960PJ achieves its award-winning performance by combining an onboard 66Mhz Intel (Nasdaq: INTC - news) 960RD RISC processor with Mylex's own firmware and RAID accelerator. The dedicated RISC processor offloads RAID management functions from the host CPU, resulting in higher RAID and server performance. The DAC960PJ features up to three Ultra SCSI channels, each offering data throughput up to 40 MB per second per channel. The controller supports memory configurations up to 128MB. Pricing and Availability MSRP pricing for a two channel DAC960PJ with 8 MB of memory starts at $2,591, with pricing for other configurations determined by the number of channels and the amount of memory. Several leading OEM server manufacturers have already designed the DAC960PJ into their systems. In addition to being integrated in numerous PC server product lines, the DAC960PJ also has a distribution channel counterpart, the DACPJM, which is available through VARs and distributors worldwide. About Unisys Unisys (NYSE:UIS - news) is an information technology solutions provider that has a portfolio of information services, technologies and third-party alliances needed to help clients capitalize on their information asset to enhance their competitiveness and responsiveness to customers. Unisys expertise is founded on the strengths of three global businesses: Information Services, providing consulting, application solutions, systems integration and outsourcing; Computer Systems, providing industry-leading technologies; and Global Customer Services, delivering comprehensive services and products supporting distributed computing environments. Access the Unisys home page on the World Wide Web at unisys.com for further information. About Mylex Founded in 1983, Mylex Corporation is an ISO 9001-certified developer of high-performance hardware and software for moving, storing, protecting and managing data in network and desktop environments. Ranked as the No. 1 supplier of RAID controllers in the non-captive network systems disk array market in the 1997, 1996 and 1995 DISK/TREND reports, Mylex produces high-performance RAID controller subsystems, SCSI adapters and complementary computer products for network servers, mass storage systems, workstations and system motherboards. Mylex's Network Power & Light division develops technologies to increase performance and reduce the cost of networking and networked-attached data storage. Mylex products are sold globally through a network of OEMs, major distributors, VARs and system integrators. Mylex Corporation is headquartered at 34551 Ardenwood Blvd., Fremont, CA. 94555, and can be reached by phone at 510-796-6100 or toll free at 800-77-MYLEX, by fax at 510-745-8016 or on the Internet at mylex.com. Contact: Mylex Corporation, Fremont Eric Herzog, 510/608-2469 erich@mylex.com Judith Lawrence-Gates, 510/608-2244 judithl@mylex.com or Dovetail Public Relations Corey Oiesen or Mark Coker, 408/395-3600 coreydpr@aol.com or mark@dovetailpr.com