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Biotech / Medical : Ligand (LGND) Breakout! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Mudcat who wrote (23203)	7/14/1998 9:13:00 PM
From: Machaon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 32384

<< Alper, Why are you asking Tonyt what his position is? I think the one you should be asking is Henry. >> Mudcat, tonyt had about 10 posts today, on this thread, that were either personal or confrontational, IMO. It's surprises me that you can't understand it when posters react to this type of negative posting. Your question of Alper also surprises me. It seems obvious that Henry is "long" LGND, and that it's his major holding. Why the comment? Did you think that Henry was "short" LGND?

To: Mudcat who wrote (23203)	7/14/1998 9:43:00 PM
From: tonyt	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 32384

>Alper, Why are you asking Tonyt what his position is? I think the one >you should be asking is Henry. That never 'bothered' him. It was my 8,349,231 short position that 'mislead' him. P.S. Just to be on the safe side (you never know what some will believe), that 8,349,231 short position that I stated in the 1st sentence is meant to be a ridiculous answer to a badgering question by alper.

To: Mudcat who wrote (23203)	7/14/1998 10:21:00 PM
From: Henry Niman	Respond to of 32384

Mudcat, Many people had asked our famous naysayer about his position last November because he took such glee in reporting LGND downticks: Message 2816796 Message 2817783 After many requests, he put up his famous post(s). He initially said that he was short about 30,000 shares. Then within the time allowed to edit his post, he kept jacking up the number and ended around 90,000 shares short: techstocks.com The 90,000 shares seemed a bit high, but several posters on this board have claimed to be long LGND around that level, so it wasn't such an unreasonable number. Later others were riduculed for believing his post: Message 3430350 Message 3476348 and now the deception continues by re-enventing the post at a much higher short position: Message 5186126 which continues to grow, post after post: techstocks.com This type of deception occurs again and again although the outright lie in the original post is a bit unusual.

To: Mudcat who wrote (23203)	7/15/1998 1:53:00 AM
From: Alper H.YUKSEL	Respond to of 32384

'Alper, Why are you asking Tonyt what his position is? I think the one you should be asking is Henry.' Mudcat, My (badgering) question about his position came after a discussion of why he's so negative about the company's prospects, whether he has a solid reasoning or whether it's because of the positions he took. His reply was, why am I so interested in his position (isn't it obvious?) , what kind of a person I am, asking strangers questions like that, and why don't I disclose my position, which I did. Afterwards, he also asked for my address and phone number. I think, Henry really need not be questioned about his position, as he has adressed the issue a few times in the past. Furthermore, Henry is a real personality who doesn't make any pretenses with his identity, with a full name, profession, details about his family etc. And all of these are easily verifiable due to his scientific work, patents, his past in the university. On the other hand, tonyt is just a pseudonym, a facade. Surely, one can not compare tonyt and Henry. Most of the time, the discussion on this thread is attempted to be portrayed by some as 'yeahsayers' not being able to bear with 'naysayers' or any criticism of the stock. This is really not the case here. The issue is that not many have been able to support his/her negative views with a reasoning behind and when they were questioned for it, this becomes 'yeahsayers' not tolerating 'naysayers' Henry, who is the driving force of the thread believes in the stock and promotes it AND discloses his reasoning as to why this stock will be a winner in the long term. Is he right ? Time will tell. But there's a structured reasoning behind his views. Tonyt has never commented about the company's fundamentals, when he was negative about the stock. Now he believes that this is a trading stock. Is he right ? He could be, though arguing is always easier than demonstrating. Cheers Alper