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To: mark silvers who wrote (19205)7/16/1998 1:36:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 39621
 
"Everyone was aware that the peace and reconcilliation that I was referring to was that between Alan and DCF."

Again you try your clever deception. The center of controversy was not Alan and DCF as you falsely state but between Christians and nonchristians. Hal Jordan, yourself, Alan Markoff were attacking me and DCF cam in with his own insights and leaned slightly toward me.
This inflamed the demons in Joran, yourself and the Markoffs. You all pounced on DCF. That was the context of the dispute.
The demon possessed and worldly forces against the Christains. You were seeking the peace and reconciliation of the wordl so the demons could continue there syrupy and almost meaningless dialogs without ever confronting the hard truths. That is the atmosphere that you desire in your heart because you are still dead and in darkness. I once was there also.

The peace and reconciliation of God is Jesus Christ Crucified for the sins of mankind and raise for their justification. This is what brings the true peace of the heart for mankind and reconciliation between God and man. Man will no and cannot find peace and reconciliaation without the Lord Jesus Christ.



To: mark silvers who wrote (19205)7/17/1998 7:02:00 AM
From: IN_GOD_I_TRUST  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Hi Mark (from Bob),

I wanted to repost this, it might have been lost in the Emile thing.

Speak with you soon, have a good day.

Bob

Thanks for your honesty. I'll be perfectly honest with you, I'm not trying to jam a belief down your throat. I just want you to experience life to the fullest. I truly pray that your life be full of blessings, peace and happiness. I'm not saying that your life isn't good now, my life was very good before embracing Christ and the Bible as truth. But since embracing Christ, my life has never been more full of blessings, peace and joy. Jesus has transformed me over more than a decade to the point where I actually care for you (somebody I've never met). This may not be a big deal to others, they are born with that kind of a heart, but I wasn't born with the heart for others. This transformation (or rehabilitation as you call it) is of God.

Now, to address your response. I didn't express myself well in relation to the multiple facets of God's personality. I did not mean that God was "moody", He can express emotions without being moody. He is happy when we obey and sad or disappointed when we don't. He can have compassion on us and certainly loves us. These are all valid emotions.

I realize you agree that we are sinners, I disagree with your higher and nobler path theory. I think it is more Godlike (loving) to actually pay the penalty for somebody. You seem to be focused on the fact that you can't believe in God's punishment for sinners. If He does not punish, Martin Luther King, Mother Theresa, Adolf Hitler and Satan will enjoy the same eternal fate (Not much incentive to do good, is it). Surely, this would not be fair to the people who devote their lives to serving others and serving God.

Sorry for the delayed response, I left work early yesterday.

Bob