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To: Kashish King who wrote (540)	7/20/1998 8:17:00 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 5102

Very interesting. Linux is definitely becoming a threat to NT It's not going to happen. Linux is not even so much as a blip on NT's radar screen. In no way does it threaten NT's future dominance. While there exists a market for Linux & related products, it is never going to the level of commercial success NT will. People can hate MS all day long. But NT is a good product that is likely to be dominant for some years to come. While I agree there is bloat, there is also plenty of hardware about that makes the bloat unimportant. And NT 4 is secure and stable, at least as much so as Linux. The biggest threat to NT is NT5, in which MS may take a good, stable NOS and convert it to crap.

To: Kashish King who wrote (540)	7/22/1998 1:15:00 PM
From: Scott McPealy	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 5102

Linux threatens Sun's Solaris and every other proprietary UNIX operating system. NT differentiates itself from UNIX, therefore, the people who buy it don't want UNIX. As long as Sun controls Java it will fail. Lets face it, they have not proven themselves to be able to deliver software any better than Microsoft. Java has been constantly changing, continously buggy (not even beta quality), and progress has been slow. Java is a money making racket for university computers science graduates. Its classic UNIX fundamentalism at its worst. Java is only mildly less complex than C++. We don't need mass quantities of unskilled low level system programmers. We need higher level domain specific languages and end user tools which allow the experts of their field to build sophisticated applications. The Java architecture is tightly bound to the Java language. Its not language neutral. The language is too hard. Its obvious Java has no chance to succeed when you listen to James Gosling talk. In PCMag, he stated that Java would be the great equalizer of operating systems. At this years JavaOne, he made the remark that he uses vi editor and the crowd cheered crazily. Ask yourself, what kind of crowd would love vi? ------------------------- azstarnet.com "Java is not a step forward in computer science at all. Almost every feature in Java is ancient history in computer science, and those few that are not ancient history are fairly obvious extensions to common ideas (sometimes bad ones). Java may arguably be a step forward in commercial programming practice, since it has introduced important concepts and tools to a lot of practicing but uneducated programmers who might otherwise never have seen them. I'm referring here to dynamic typing, automatic storage management, multi-threading and similar features." ------------------------- Linux isn't innovation either. Its a copycat of the Netscape browser strategy (applied to operating systems) with the goal of winning big marketshare on the open hardware platform Intel (and possibly alpha) thereby solving the chronic UNIX fragmentation problem caused by alternative proprietary hardware vendors like Sun, Silicon Graphics, IBM, etc.

To: Kashish King who wrote (540)	8/2/1998 10:08:00 PM
From: David Miller	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 5102

More on Linux. sunworld.com Interesting development. I know at least one IT Director who was relying on NT5.0 being delivered this summer.... now it looks as though next summer is going to be optimistic. How long before the accumulation of broken promises, missed deadlines and unreliable product finally prevails over the massive marketing machine....? david