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To: Ali Chen who wrote (34941)	7/21/1998 9:52:00 PM
From: Yousef	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572928

Ali, Re: "I see you still can't read a financial statement. Or perhaps you only understand LOSS REPORTS and not EARNINGS REPORTS." Not only do you not know how to READ financial statements, you also don't anything about process development and what determines a CPU's speed. You continue to seem to have this "problem" ... it must be very "painful" to have your screwdriver stuck like that. <ggg> Make It So, Yousef

To: Ali Chen who wrote (34941)	7/22/1998 12:10:00 AM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572928

Ali - Re: "Intel will not have this technology, and will be out of copper for at least a year with "their own", Let's see...if you are correct, Intel will be "out of copper" until a year from now. Wouldn't that put Intel "into" copper in late 1999 - ONE YEAR AHEAD of AMD, which is predicting a copper process in the year 2000? Re: "Especially with their lousy Pentium Pro core..." Since this "lousy" core is the basis of all Pentium II's and Xeons, and these all beat the pants off of the K6 and K6-2, doesn't that imply the K6-2 is "worse than lousy"? Paul

To: Ali Chen who wrote (34941)	7/22/1998 12:47:00 AM
From: Dale J.	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572928

Ali - Intel will not have this technology, and will be out of copper for at least a year I question the advantages of copper at this point. Let me state up front, I am not an engineer nor am I attempting to impersonate one. ;-) But check out this excerpt from the article below. The benefits of copper will not be realized until .13 micron manufacturing. Well nobody including IBM is manufacturing at .13 micron (at least when it comes to x86 processors). This appears to be Hype. IBM is hyping phantom benefits for phantom customers. Intel will wait until the benefits are real. Here is an excerpt: The shift to copper will only result in an incremental improvement in the 0.18-micron generation of chips, according to Nathan Brookwood, semiconductor analyst for Dataquest. Most of the improvements the physical properties of copper can bring will come with the subsequent 0.13-micron manufacturing process, as still smaller transistors will better synchronize with the higher speed interconnections. "You really need 0.13.," he said. "It's like city traffic with traffic lights on every corner. With 0.18, you get to the traffic light a lot faster, but you spend a lot more time waiting at the light. When you get to 0.13, the traffic lights start getting shorter." Below is the URL for the full article. URL: news.com BTW: Paul had a nice rebuttal: Message 5247635 What would investing be without the SI funnies. ;-) Dale