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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Dale J. who wrote (34961)	7/22/1998 1:55:00 AM
From: Ali Chen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572945

Dale, <I question the advantages of copper at this point.> It is your rights indeed. But these words about traffic at 0.18 and 0.13 are pure speculation on Mr. Brookwood part. I do not mean to question his prior experience in the field, but I am 120% sure he has NO idea as what is going on in current labs. It is just too important for the companies involved. We have here a perfect example of "expert limits" - Yousef. I am much sure Mr. Brookwood never saw a SPICE model for silicon gates and interconnects, but anyway takes a liberty to talk about feature sizes and traffic congestion. About a year ago I was beaten on Intel thread for not including interconnection delays into speed path estimations, and all it was about 0.35um technology. I guess you understand that these problems do not go away with further chip shrinks, but quite opposite. IMO, all future transitions will be "incremental". You will not see 2X speed gain with each hypothetical (0.25/0.18)^^2 shrink. Same goes for copper. At least there is some innovation here. And I do not think the companies will waste billions in R&D just to hype investors. (Only Intel can do this, to keep value for their labor compensation plan). <Intel will wait until the benefits are real.> Ok, I can live with that :-) P.S. The rebuttal is lengthy and unconvincing: who wants to pick nits about what was launched before whom or whatever.