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To: TCAT who wrote (8316)	7/24/1998 3:58:00 PM
From: alan hardy	Respond to of 43774

looks like a few traders took their toys and whent home for the weekend

To: TCAT who wrote (8316)	7/24/1998 4:01:00 PM
From: xbrent	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 43774

We began this whole problem with the suspicion that the press release was hacked and on the other side some suspected fraud. We have progressed now to the point where it is apparent that we are in the middle of an election and people do what people do in elections. We do not have hacking and we do not have any misdealing by the company. We have a political group who sent out a self serving press release designed to make the other party look bad. The mortgages are still going to happen. This whole scare is just that a big scare. The company has spent the time and has had success in developing this mortgage business in Belize and has the documents to prove it. Soon the company will provide conclusive proof documenting the viability of the venture. Houses are being built. For those of you who took a different stance on this I certinly understand, I had my doubts too. You are cordially invited back into the fold, no fault found. Who knew what was going on when this first broke?

To: TCAT who wrote (8316)	7/24/1998 4:13:00 PM
From: Bram12345	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 43774

OFF TOPIC: FYI, I'm reposting these two messages that I placed on another thread back in June. I thought some of you might be interested in the subject. If any of you do end up subscribing to one of these, please let me know your thoughts on them. Good Luck, Ben Message 4702257 Talk : $5 and Under : ICVI (now MTEI) \| Previous \| Next \| Respond \| ICVI Clubhouse \| To: +Jim B (7299 ) From: +Ben Ramirez Wednesday, Jun 3 1998 10:48AM ET Reply # of 11846 To All Interested Parties: I have a site that provides dynamically live quotes as they happen. You can see every trade, along with the bid/ask. There is a cost though, approximately 35 dollars a month. It's great for those who like to see the pattern of the ups and downs during the day. Like any other system, there are times when the system is down. But, when it works, it's a champ. One thing though, you must have Java software to use it. If interested, let me know. Ben Message 4703468 Talk : $5 and Under : ICVI (now MTEI) \| Previous \| Next \| Respond \| ICVI Clubhouse \| To: +Ben Ramirez (7304 ) From: +Ben Ramirez Wednesday, Jun 3 1998 11:45AM ET Reply # of 11846 To All: I've been swamped with requests for the dynamically live quote site. I didn't think anyone would really be interested, that's why I did not post it on my message. First, let me begin by saying that there is another similar site that broke off with this company. The company that I currently use is: wwquote.com The second company that broke off and claims lesser down time is: bullsession.com As far as level 2 or level II, I do not know what this level is or provides. I do know that I see every trade and the time of execution on my screen. You also have a live chart you can see for three stocks at any given time; the portfolio is also live. I've had more problems with the portfolio screen than with the combination chart and individual stock screen. I've had problems for order status from my broker DLJdirect, but if I placed an odd order like say 7200 or 3400, I will see these executions before DLjdirect does. This way, I can be assured that my order has been executed(It would be harder to tell if you place a common order like 1000, 5000, 10000, etc. I believe they do offer a free trial for about one week. They are located in Canada and so is Bullsession. If anyone does apply for wwquote, let me know, there are some minor bugs that you can sometimes bypass. Ben