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To: PROLIFE who wrote (19489)	7/24/1998 6:06:00 PM
From: Alan Markoff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Dan, From my understanding you are grafted into the Body of Messiah the Tree. Why do you want to be Israel? When Paul was talking about being grafted in he warns against conceit of the natural branches, and it is the author that seperates the natural branches from the ones being grafted in. You have Israels Messiah what else do you want there National identity as well? The term the True Israel of God sounds like you are better than them so you are true and they are liars, that is the conciet I believe Paul is warning about. Can't everyone just enjoy their wonderful position with God through the Messiah that Israel does not have at this time and just leave them out of it. If you really need to use that term and offend people then that is your choice and I have told you my reasons for being offended by it. If you have a clear verse for it I would have no problem. I pray that all can see their wonderful postition as the Body of Messiah and be filled with a love for the Jewish people that will make them sensitive to their feelings. The Lord Bless You, Nancy

To: PROLIFE who wrote (19489)	7/24/1998 6:26:00 PM
From: Chris land	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

<<If Christ's work is complete,(Heb.1:3;Heb.8:1) and if He did indeed sit down at the right hand of God, and if we have been grafted in,(Romans 11:19) and if we are granted full rights as sons( John 1:12; Gal. 3:29-4:7) why are we not spiritual Israel? >> The work is complete and the church is and will forever more be the spiritual Israel. When national Israel becomes spiritual they will be is grafted back in but there will still only be one church. Chris