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To: Alan Markoff who wrote (23951)	7/26/1998 12:14:00 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Hi Nancy, It was interesting that you refer to evolution as a theory and creationism as a fact. Was that intentional? I have no problem with ANY material being presented as long as we are very, very careful to explain what is theory. If you were to tell my child that it was a fact that the world was created in seven days by God I would be very upset, because it's NOT a scientific fact. My children's teacher told them that some people believe this and that's fine. But I don't believe there's enough scientific evidence to present it as a fact. I don't know much about how other religions view this issue, but if we include the Christian creation theory, should we include the others as well? they have admitted that evolution is a virtual impossibility. I'd be interested in your source for this. I haven't heard it anywhere. My first reaction is disbelief but I don't want to be guilty of what I accused others in my previous post! The problem with knowledge is that it is everchanging. We can never be certain that we have arrived at any absolute. If we decide that we have and refuse to look with an open mind at new ideas , I believe we suffer intellectual death. The problem is how do we meld the spiritual and the intellectual so that they don't exist as opposites, invalidating each other. I respect the Christian faith but I do not believe that the Bible is a scientific textbook and it should not be presented as such to children. It is one theory at most, and an impressive mythology at least (and only one mythology of many). It has a long way to go before it is a fact. To let the myths prevent us from moving forward in a constant search for truth would be- paralyzing. Matters of faith are just that. For some, science and religion mutually exclude, for others, they can exist concurrently, but only in a parallel sense. For some lucky ones, they interact and form a coherent truth that I can only envy. Spiritual belief should only be taught in the home. If indeed, evolution has now been disproved as you say, then that too must be accepted and taught. Whatever has basis in scientific fact is what should be presented with the caveat that we are constantly increasing our knowledge and that nothing is absolute. Boy, once you start trying to sort through this stuff--it gets very confusing. Personally, I strongly support the separation of church and state and believe that the Bible has no place in the Science Dept--yet. I'll keep an open mind, though!

To: Alan Markoff who wrote (23951)	7/26/1998 3:54:00 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 108807

I am very curious about your claim re: evolution being a virtual impossibility with the recent advances in knowledge about DNA. Could you please state your sources?

To: Alan Markoff who wrote (23951)	7/27/1998 4:06:00 AM
From: Krowbar	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

<< At the end I noticed something about the school board and materials in the schools. I desire to become more active in this area. Last year I served as a parent communicator and plan to go on further with this. My biggest problem is the presentation of the theory of evolution as fact and the only fact. This is a theory and a weak one at that. >> Where are you finding these schoolbooks that are teaching evolution? I have asked repeatedly for anybody to direct me to a public schoolbook that even mentions evolution, and I have heard of none. This is the big lie being told by the Christian wrong. They have succeeded in censoring the schoolbooks years ago. Evolution is a weak theory? That would be news to the 95% of Biologists that say that evolution is as good as fact. Again, disinformation from the Christian wrong. In contrast, Creationism is not supported by evidence. It is based on faith and doesn't belong in a science classroom. Del