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Politics : Did Slick Boink Monica? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: lazarre who wrote (17525)	7/27/1998 11:44:00 AM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 20981

Nothing inane at all about the point of view that everyone would be better off with a smaller less intrusive government. Entirely correct and healthy for the country that they argue the point. It is inane to suggest that a healthy debate about the role of govm't inevitably leads to murder.

To: lazarre who wrote (17525)	7/27/1998 9:52:00 PM
From: Catfish	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 20981

Democrats warn Clinton: Testify or face problems Capitol Hill Blue July 26, 1998 Doug Thompson Senior Democratic leaders have told President Bill Clinton they feel momentum is shifting towards independent counsel Kenneth Starr and he must comply with a grand jury subpoena or face serious problems on Capitol Hill, Congressional sources told Capitol Hill Blue Sunday. In private conversations with the President, senior Congressional Democrats as well as party leaders have told Clinton that he has no choice but to testify before the Whitewater grand jury about his relationship with former White House intern Monica Lewinsky. House Democratic Leader Richard Gephardt was the first to advise Clinton to testify as word circulated on the Hill last week that Starr had sent a subpoena to the White House. He was joined shortly afterwards by Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle, Minority Whip Wendell Ford and Democratic National Committee Chairman Roy Roemer, sources confirmed. "The message is very, very clear. The president has no choice but to testify," a Senior Democratic staffer said Sunday. "There are problems out there and they're not going away." Among the reasons cited: * A growing belief among Democrats that Starr's evidence against the President is mounting. At the very least, more and more Democrats fear Starr can make a case for perjury. Some wonder if Starr has more evidence pointing to obstruction of justice than previously believed; * Internal Democratic party polls show the number of Americans believe the President is hiding the truth about his relationship with Lewinsky continues to increase. While Clinton's popularity numbers remain high, Democrats fear that a failure to testify will be seen as tacit admission, which could erode the numbers; * Senior Democrats believe Secret Service agents who testified last week confirmed key elements of Lewinsky's revelations to Linda Tripp and further undermined Clinton's credibility with the grand jury. "There's no doubt that last week belonged to Ken Starr," a Gephardt aide admitted privately. "We had a shot with the Judge's ruling on leaks, but that got lost with stories about what the Secret Service was telling the grand jury." Gephardt also reportedly telephoned the White House on Sunday to express his "extreme displeasure" over Clinton advisor Rahm Emmanuel's handling of questions regarding the subpoena from Starr during an appearance on NBC's Meet the Press. Meet the Press host Tim Russert asked Emmanuel why he had lied last week when asked if Clinton had been served by a subpoena. Emmanuel claimed he had never said directly that a subpoena had not been received by the White House. Later in the program, NBC correspondent Lisa Myers said Emmanuel flatly denied the existence of a subpoena when asked about it on Friday (the subpoena had in fact been delivered at least a week earlier). Gephardt felt Emmanuel had "seriously damaged the President's credibility," said one source who claimed to have overheard the conversation. Pressure from Democratic leaders comes in the midst of an internal war between senior White House aides and attorneys for the President. The attorneys don't want Clinton to appear and are trying to negotiate a deal where he can answer prepared questions on videotape. Some White House advisors, source say, want the President to pre-empt the grand jury with a speech to the nation where he can explain his "special relationship" with Lewinsky. Clinton's attorneys oppose any public statement on the matter. While Democrats are fighting privately among themselves, Republicans are publicly telling Clinton that he'd better testify. "It would be disastrous," Senate Majority Whip Don Nickels told NBC's Meet the Press. "It is basically saying he is above the law, that he doesn't have to comply with the law. Everybody else in America has to comply with subpoenas." Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Orrin Hatch said failure to testify could create a "constitutional crisis" that could result in impeachment proceedings against Clinton. "If he doesn't (testify), I think public opinion would turn overwhelmingly against him," Hatch said on CBS's Face the Nation. One Republican however, Pennsylvania Senator Arlen Specter, told CNN that he didn't think Clinton's avoidance of testimony would lead to impeachment. freerepublic.com