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To: Binder who wrote (4355)7/28/1998 1:37:00 AM
From: Stephanie M  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9440
 
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To: Binder who wrote (4355)7/28/1998 2:08:00 AM
From: Qone0  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 9440
 
You are getting close to my thoughts Binder.

These people are day traders. Day traders buy with limit orders to beat each other in and sell with limit orders to beat each other out. Front running is the name of the game.

Now i do read the day trading threads because i use momentum as a tool to find good company's. I never buy during the day trader run i always wait for the dump.

Lets look at the history here. First Big Dog and Copia attack TMEX driving him off his thread to a new thread. This works for a while until a few of their picks tank with out running up first.

Then TMEX attacks them using the tanking picks to pull some support away from them. Now the buying power is so spread out none of their picks move.

Next they all get together and support a good pick TEXN.

Next Copia wants the group support on his pick. Big Dog and TMEX give him support but at the same time start putting out picks of their own.

Now the group splits apart and the attacks start again.

Now we have new people attacking Big Dog while leaving out other names. Makes me wonder if we are seeing some new day trading guru's here.

This entire post is my opinion........ROB



To: Binder who wrote (4355)7/28/1998 9:11:00 AM
From: Ga Bard  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 9440
 
Amazing that in a some's quest to make money in the market you can only make money when you have buying and you bought low enough to sell into the promotion of the stock. What people fail to realize is shoot1st post with the PM which had another PM within it had some definite facts to it.

1.) It was received by a party to a group that were fronting running and then promoting in a communication by a leader to his disciples

2.) At the bottom of the PM was a list of accessories or affiliates also a part to that scenario however one name was missing

3.) It was black and white proof of conspiring to take power away from another guru which had worked before on other Gurus.

4.) It was a evidence of a war for control of the internet sheep as per the conviently omitted name which was stated by the party that was not exposed however in previous posts on this thread most know who that missing party is without a doubt

5.) The internet has a lot of dealing in the world of Private Messages that are deceitful being Deceitis nothing more than a fraudulent and deceptive misrepresentation, artifice, or device, used by one or more persons to deceive and trick another, who is ignorant of the true facts.

6.) By the omission of the one name to the group of names listed was that not Misrepresentation which is any manifestation by words or other conduct not in accordance with the facts; an untrue statement of fact; an incorrect or false representation which, if accepted, leads the mind to an apprehension of a condition other and different from that which exists.

7.) Was it not the result or effect of evidence, the means by which a fact is proven. which I believe to be burden of proof there is a new Shepherd King about to come to the internet sheep.

Now with that in mind what did that post also possibly entail .. well lets look at some interesting points

Fraud: An intentional perversion of the truth for the purpose of inducing another in reliance upon it to part with some valuable thing which includes a false representation of a matter of fact, whether by words ot conduct, by false or misleading allegations, or by concealment of that which should have been disclosed, which deceives and is intended to deceive another so that he shall act upon it to his legal inquiry; anything calculated to deceive, whether by a single act or combination, or by suppression of truth, or suggestion of what is false, whether it be by direct falsehood or innuendo, by speech or silence, word of mouth, or look or gesture; fraud comprises all acts, omissions, and concealments involving a branch of legal or equitable duty and resulting in damage to another.

or how about ...

Fraudulent Concealment: The hiding or suppression of a material fact or circumstance which the party is legally or morally bound to disclose, in order to prevent inquiry, escape investigation, or to mislead or hinder the acquisition of information disclosing a right of action.

Better yet ...

Fraudulent Intent: Such intent exists where one, either with a view of benefitting oneself or misleading another into a course of action, makes a representation which one knows to be false or which one does not believe to be true.

Now with that all said how about this ... what if say no truth was stretch and it was all factual in the promotion of the stock typically that is not correct because as RTP proved most day trader promoters stretch the truth. SO anyway aside from all this above what about this legal scenario which generally goes hand in hand with the above.

Criminal Conspiracy: A combination or confederation between two or more persons, formed for the purpose of committing, by their joint efforts, some unlawful or criminal act, or some act which is lawful in itself, but becomes unlawful when done by the concerted action of the conspirators, or for the purpose of using criminal or unlawful means to the commission of an act not in itself unlawful.A person is guilty of conspiracy if that person agrees to aid other persons in the planning or commission of such crime, or of an attempt or solicitation of such a crime. A conspiracy may be a continuing one; actors may drop out, and others drop in; the details of operation may change from time to time; the members need not know each other or the part played by others; a member need not know all the details of the plan or the operation; he must, however, know the purpose of the conspiracy and agree to become a party to a plan to effectuate that purpose. A chain-conspiracy is characterized by different activities carried on with the same subject of conspiracy in chain-like manner that each conspirator in chain-like manner performs a separate function which serves in the accomplishment of the overall conspiracy. A civil conspiracy is a concert or combination to defraud or cause other injury to person or property, which results in damage to the person or property. Conspiracy in restraint of trade describes all forms of illegal agreements such as boycotts, price-fixing, etc., which have as their object interference with the free flow of commerce and trade. One cannot agree or conspire with another who does not agree or conspire with him.

Now in our history the only way the illegal authorities have been able to bust a ganster is by getting someone in the ranks to get upset, angry or emotional enough to expose the act. Once that is done typicaly they want immunity. People on the internet in a quest for control of the internet are doing exactly that. By posting that PM on a public forum some one got a copy of it which is exposing more than what it was intented to do.

It was clearly intented to expose Big Dog which it did and it exposed a whole lot more plus by omitting a fact made is subjective to possibly a continuing scenario just lead by someone else. Historically gansters overthrow the bosses but their is another boss waiting in line for the power who also has sheepdogs.

Many people think therefore believe but as I learn belief is not an act of innocence or have any bearing on the truth. Anyone and I mean anyone can be duped. We trust we are deceived we are nailed. Some people are not even aware they are a part of crime. People on these witch hunts to expose typically are upset and were a part of something then they go out to prove it thus involving themselves.

Once you post on the internet open forum that is a permanent record of events.

That post was basically the most damaging post of proof to day/momentum traders I have ever seen. It confirmed everything that has been said about stock pickers and in the bring down of each major day trading Guru. It clearly showed intent, names of affiliates (all but one), brief outline of a plan or scheme, plus the war for the controlling power of the internet sheep.

Now I could be wrong but this post serves as notice to everyone be careful what you post you may put yourself in that which you are trying to expose. You can;t expose it if you were not a part of it.

Right now I and probably most every poster on line is guilty of this post at some point in time if you are promoting a stock. Think and use common sense when posting for these boards are monitored. The internet is the perfect vessel to catch confessions of wrong doing. You may not even know you are part of a wrong doing or confessing either but what you believe and what is the truth is two seperate things.

Think about it.

GB



To: Binder who wrote (4355)7/28/1998 11:31:00 AM
From: Shoot1st  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 9440
 
I do have one simple question that perhaps either you or Gary can answer.

I remember 20 some years ago trying to get jobs in factories to hold me over until I found my "calling". Even 20 years ago to get a position as a floor sweeper, the ordeal took several weeks and several interviews with different people, testing, physical exams etc.

How is it that, within hours of MIDL's crash and burn a few weeks back, the company issued a news release announcing Gary Swancey as the new IR person. Would developing this "relationship" not take at least the same amount of time required to become employed at a floor sweeper? And would the word "disclosure" that you two have been throwing around these last 2 days, come into play then?

Sorry..that's 2 questions....take your time.....we are patient people.

Shoot1st



To: Binder who wrote (4355)8/16/1998 10:47:00 AM
From: Big Dog  Read Replies (10) | Respond to of 9440
 
You are leaving out one very important point and that is this ,

Just my opinion,
Binder
:-)

Everything we post about another is just that, just our opinion and anything we post including aledged PM's is open to interpitation. Any re-post can be enhanced to add or delete anything the "exposer" wants because that in his opinion, is the way it should be.

All the personal attacks and "wars" has gotten way out of hand. Look around us, we don't even talk about stocks anymore. We sit around and wait for someone to make a mistake and pounce on it. It never ends. Even when the person that is being attacked is proven innocent it does not end because now that person has made enemys defending himself. Those enemys will now attack anything he does or says.

What I would love to see is an "ATTACK FREE WEEK ON SI". Just one week where we all put aside our differences and personal opinions of each other. Imagine, posting attack free. Anyone that is concerned about the deteriorating quality of SI would be glad to participate for one measly week and those that would not try it, we would know they are the ones here to do nothing but destroy.

One "ATTACK FREE WEEK ON SI". I would bet it would bring a great deal of people that don't get along together for the common good of SI. So many people are fighting for down right stupid reasons. Some don't even remember why they dislike someone. A prime example is the feud between Tim Luke and myself. It was a heated battle until Tim pointed out how stupid it was for us to be at each others throats because we had conflicting opinions of some things. It took Tim Luke to open my eyes to this and I respect him for that. We have apologized to each other and we get along. We are not bosom buddies but we respect each other's right to an opinion. I would bet one "ATTACK FREE WEEK ON SI" would yield many stories with endings like this one between Tim Luke and myself.

Just my opinion, "ATTACK FREE WEEK ON SI".

BIG DOG