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To: Dayuhan who wrote (24026)	8/1/1998 6:10:00 PM
From: George S. Montgomery	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Steven: Your thoughts are, to me, profound. The circle nature of good and bad. The idea of what and how to tweak. I feel you are much more of a Buddhist than Craig. Is there an avenue that can be traveled that can help us, as a species, gain more conscious evolution? Or, do we just have to sit and observe - while we nit each other to pieces? geo

To: Dayuhan who wrote (24026)	8/3/1998 12:26:00 PM
From: Jacques Chitte	Respond to of 108807

>I suspect that what's best in people comes from a place awfully close to what's worst in them, < Well shewt, now you've got me there. I have held onto the optimistic belief that our best and our worst are separable. But I can't prove it! As for tweaking, I have utterly no idea how that would be done. If I were to speculate on it here now, it would be like 1820s steam engineers b.s.ing about the finer points of a turbofan engine. Oh btw in case you missed it, here's a great roach tale. techstocks.com

To: Dayuhan who wrote (24026)	8/3/1998 2:58:00 PM
From: George S. Montgomery	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 108807

Steve: My purpose, which I expose at the head, is to keep you as a reader of, and contributor to, this thread. In, believe it or not, Linguistics Class, centuries ago, I made a presentation that involved two large overlapping rectangles - on the black/chalk board. The overlap was almost complete, with only a slim fringe not being contained in both rectangles. As I recall, it had essentially to do with the smudge, the grey, that characterizes nearly all our goals and values on a global, not cosmic, scale. Very very little existed in the fringes. Maybe intentional evil, wrongdoing, known and deliberately accomplished, on the one end, and intentional benignity on the other. Everything else: Overlapped. In another dimension, this can be seen as the (and this is an awareness that you have) circular graphing of extremes - where good and bad are connected, and indifference, or grey, lies along the circumference. Why do I cite this X? Simply to ask you a question. Is the two-valued orientation that Alex expressed in his response to your post capable of being, not tweaked, but discussed? Is there so much unconsciousness, so fanatically clung to, that consciousness has no weapon - except time, or restaging of the whole game with a whole new bunch of players? I used to be incapable of sitting through a "war movie." What was being taken as entertainment was, to me a total vilification of life. Sadly, lately, I have questioned this reaction of yore. Maybe, I ask, is the sending pawns out to kill other pawns, for the protected and ambitious goals of their particular monarchies, inherent to our species? Is war, and are power moves, 'natural?' Natural to our cut of being? Is campaigning against it campaigning against our basic existences? When we excoriate those who are weaker in our societies are we simply doing the runt of the litter routine that's inborn. At this particular moment in our cultural development, I must admit, I am consoled, and even pleased, by the fact that our individualities are finite. Please stay on-thread. Can your consciousness spread? george

To: Dayuhan who wrote (24026)	8/3/1998 3:43:00 PM
From: George S. Montgomery	Respond to of 108807

Steven: I apologize for being so yicky-yacky-tacky, but I have another question: We are doing our daily constitutional. We approach a feeble, damaged, creature. Do we stoop to help it? Do we walk past it? Do we kick it? It is my feeling that too much of our current Super Power Nation is choosing the 'kick' option. Will Wellstone gather momentum? There are so Xing many of us, increasing all the time, that we have to cure or eliminate. How can patios and stinkpots continue to prevail while we multiply so profusely? You are unfortunate because I have sworn not to involve unspecified beings in my ravings. Please consider my overtures amicable. g.