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To: Mary Cluney who wrote (61735)8/3/1998 4:48:00 PM
From: Paul Engel  Respond to of 186894
 
Mary - More on your buddy Kurlak.

Surprisingly, Intel closed higher after Kurlak issued his second "NEGATIVE" prediction in the last 2 or 3 days.

Intel just doesn't seem to "nosedive" anymore after Kurlak hurls his wisdom at the investor community.

Maybe he'll try again tomorrow.

Paul

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cbs.marketwatch.com

Chip stocks: buy or bail?

By Binti Harvey, CBS MarketWatch
Last Update: 4:39 PM ET Aug 3, 1998
Also see NewsWatch

NEW YORK (CBS.MW) -- A wave of optimism about the chip
industry
subsided Monday as semiconductor shares fell and Merrill Lynch
sounded a note of caution to investors.

However, some analysts are saying now is the time to buy in to the
depressed industry.

Semiconductor stocks were mostly lower
Monday after influential chip analyst Thomas
Kurlak of Merrill Lynch said industry
fundamentals for the group remain weak.
Shares had rallied in the past few sessions,
boosted by upbeat presentations at a chip
conference and indications of improvement in
PC industry conditions.

Kurlak, however, hasn't found fundamental
support for the recent optimism. "Input from
semiconductor makers, distributors and end
uses continues to be negative," Kurlak said. He
maintains that even if PC inventories come
down to manageable levels, that still won't
address overcapacity in the chip industry.

"Developments in the PC distribution channel
are being overemphasized. A drawdown of PC
inventory is not expected to fix the fundamental
overcapacity problem the semiconductor
industry continues to struggle with," Kurlak
added.

Not all analysts share Kurlak's dim view.
Jonathan Joseph, chip analyst for NationsBanc
Montgomery Securities, remains positive on the group although he
admits that certain pockets of the industry, like the memory
business, still face severe overcapacity conditions.

Joseph said delayed and reduced plans for capacity expansion,
coupled with a resurgence of demand have positioned the group for
an upturn. "Demand has firmed up in the U.S. and Europe primarily,
but also in China," Joseph said.

Joseph recommends investing in the large-cap, high-quality names
in the sector such as Intel (INTC) and Texas Instruments (TXN). He
also remains bullish on companies that make chips for networking
and communications applications such as PMC-Sierra (PMCS) and
Applied Micro Circuits (AMCC).




To: Mary Cluney who wrote (61735)8/3/1998 10:14:00 PM
From: gnuman  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Mary re;<The only people that has this information are working for Intel......They are not going to lie to you. It does not make any sense, businesswise, for them to lie to you.>
Kind of a mixed up message, Mary.
BTW, Paul did give me the chip data, and I thank him for that. I doubt if Intel is going to provide it. Most of it is proprietary, so the investor has to figure out how to get the info for himself. And as for them not lying, I agree. But I also don't think they are providing meaningful long term guidance. If they were, would 38 analysts have the forecasts so consistently screwed up?
Eight months ago when the analyst consensus was $4.69 for `98 did you believe it? Or did you get the info from Intel? And what was the info Intel gave for "98?
And it seem's to me the only input Intel has given for the second half is that it will be better. Do you know how much better? And the consensus for `98 has dropped to around $3.00. So is 2nd half much better then 1st half? And if you think they're full of it, then I guess we can't rely on the consensus of 38 analysts for forecasts.
Which was my whole point. ;-)
And if you have any meaningful data, please share it.