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To: Skipper who wrote (24099)8/6/1998 8:25:00 PM
From: Dayuhan  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
<<I wonder what George's pagan elders would think?>>

In the pagan society I lived in, nobody would be given any meaningful say in community affairs unless:

- they were at least 40
- they had raised healthy and productive children
- their farms were consistently productive
- their actions showed good judgement
- they were generous and honest
- people liked them

In the old days, they would have had to take an enemy head as well.

Steve



To: Skipper who wrote (24099)8/6/1998 8:37:00 PM
From: George S. Montgomery  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
Skipper:

Disenfranchise! That's your answer?

We are not an enormous community of lives. We are Leaders and Slaves.

For some unknown reason, I find X like this is particularly repulsive today.

And I think any respect I had for your sensitivity has evaporated. g.



To: Skipper who wrote (24099)8/8/1998 1:36:00 AM
From: Father Terrence  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Skipper,

gsm (he of the small initials) is a tree. Wrote poem to that effect last year. It still hold true.

FT



To: Skipper who wrote (24099)8/10/1998 1:43:00 AM
From: Grainne  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Skipper, it is possible to be a very serious citizen without owning property. Are you really suggesting that only property owners could vote? We have already made it against the rules for convicted felons to vote, and young and/or irresponsible people don't vote in great numbers, either.

In places like San Francisco, a huge percentage of very nice, stable, middle class people cannot afford to buy houses. In the past few months the value of the one I am renting has zoomed up to $400,000, and if we were signing a lease on it now, the rent would be $3,000 a month. As America becomes more and more overpopulated, I predict that more and more people will not be homeowners, and will be paying huge percentages of their income on rent. Should they really all be disenfranchised? Then the rich, and people who had inherited property, would be voting, and the society would have a hard time changing to reflect the current needs and feelings of its inhabitants. That sounds like the kind of situation where revolutions eventually occur.