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To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (20065)	8/8/1998 10:34:00 PM
From: Gregory D. John	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Bob, I agree with much of what you said; however, I come from a culture that values good government. What's your opinion on legalizing all drugs? I think a lot of the current stormtrooper-mentality (or at least the perception of such attitudes) stems from the Reagan Administration's "War on Drugs". If a man is alleged to have raped a woman and the "government" labs verify semen samples, should that man have the right to demand samples be tested at a laboratory of his own choosing? Who would have to pay for this? In the end, it would be naive to believe that money can't buy a better defence. People get to keep their "rights" because the government enforces those rights. Ideally, in the U.S., the majority of people are supposed to be able to dictate to the government what is to be enforced and how to do it. Just because you "own" land according to the laws of the land, it is fundamentally subject to the laws of the land and the government that enforces those laws. Pragmatically, you only have as many rights as can be defended either by yourself or the society (government) of which you are a part. That's why I believe in good government. Anyone who believes otherwise should do well to remember the fate of the American Indians. A very, very cynical view of juries is that they are mainly comprised of those not smart enough to get out of jury duty. Greg

To: Sidney Reilly who wrote (20065)	8/10/1998 8:08:00 AM
From: IN_GOD_I_TRUST	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Bob (from Bob), I mean no offense to you, but .... I'm sick and tired of people talking about the rights of the criminals. Our society is constantly screaming about the rights of the criminals. We hear it in courtrooms all over, sadly the rights of the raped woman or dead child are swept under the table. Whenever a person commits a crime, they have given up some of their rights. They have violated anothers rights and have thus given up their rights. I remember a case where a woman was driving her child from place to place one day. Some nut case jumped into the van, kidnapped the woman and left the child on a lawn overnight. The woman was terrorized, raped and then killed with forty some stab wounds. During his trial we constantly heard of his rights. He has a bad childhood and so he has an excuse and rights. Well what about the dead woman, does that matter. What about the three year old child, doesn't she have the right to a living mom. This man was convicted to a rediculously short sentence. I guess he had more rights than the dead woman, her children and her husband. Bob