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To: Dayuhan who wrote (24233)	8/12/1998 2:53:00 PM
From: JF Quinnelly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

You'll find "logos" in John's gospel. He's using a concept familiar to Stoic Greek philosophy of that day. The Stoics believed that the world of matter is inherently corrupt, and that the spiritual realm is the location of the pure, the 'holy'. Their god would be located in the pure world of spirit and would have no interaction with the corrupt world of matter; but god's active agent, the 'logos', could. Logos literally translates as 'word', 'reason', and perhaps 'wisdom'. In John's gospel Christ is identified as the logos, God's active agent to the world. But instead of being an aeon, an emanation from god, John identifies this logos as being part of the godhead itself. In having god incarnated in the person of the logos, Christianity is rejecting the Stoic concept that the world of matter is inherently corrupt and therefore unsuitable for the presence of god. Christianity roots itself in the world of matter and history, in contrast to the religion of the Stoics and the gnostics. John would see nothing wrong in enjoying a fine meal, but a gnostic having contempt for the world of matter might.

To: Dayuhan who wrote (24233)	8/13/1998 6:17:00 PM
From: Rambi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Steve, You've touched on a topic that I love-- Food IS a spiritual experience. And if a man is hungry, he can't hear his spirit speaking over the rumbling in his stomach. (Jesus understood that.) Think how we mark every important occasion with food, from birthday parties to wakes, from wedding feasts to chicken soup for the ill. And the movies that revolve around the emotional aspect of food!-Like WAter for Chocolate, Babette's Feast, Eat, Drink, Man, Woman, and those Italian brothers who open the restaurant (can't remember the name--) This week a friend of mine came home from the hospital minus 3/4 of her intestines. I was taking her lunch and went into a panic because of the dietary restrictions. She'd been living on jello and mashed potatoes. So I went online and spent about 5 hours reading recipes and about Short Bowel Syndrome which she has and wound up in a Chat Room called the No Guts COuntry Club with a bunch of the nicest people with great senses of humor. I wound up making shells with a white sauce from lactose-free milk and a little garlic and dill. ANd some baked fruit with a little brown sugar-curry sauce, and apple-cinnamon biscuits. A very bland and easy meal, but she was so touched and she ate a lot, raving about it. I believe that when we cook with love, it adds a whole separate dimension to a meal--and that sounds like what you do. Which is probably why on some bad days, my most elaborate attempts are met with grimaces from my family. I must have seasoned with irritability (salted with snarls and peppered with pouts)