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To: Fabeyes who wrote (37504)8/15/1998 1:46:00 PM
From: Knighty Tin  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 53903
 
Fabeyes, Thus the need for selling the convertible to suckers during the current DRAM scam.

I think your numbers, ex the convert issue, may be a bit too pessimistic. MU is more likely to eat just $100 million in cash this quarter, and they are better DRAM mfrs than TXN at the margin, so they might not lose as much money there. The problem as I see it is that they have no margin for error and this had better for sure be the turnaround in DRAM. They can't afford to bleed red for long and the herd may wise up some day and stop buying every piece of crap issue they send to Wall Street. And does anyone think Simplot's heirs will stick with this white elephant once he is gone?

This quarter could represent their high spot for the next several, as the interest expense from the TI debt has not kicked in, yet they have been able to spend their current cash to improve yields knowing that the $750 million was on the way to rescue them. And they will still lose a ton of money on a profits basis and eat a lot of cash. We also have to remember that all of these "improvements" every chipmaker is making simply means more chips being produced.

MB



To: Fabeyes who wrote (37504)8/16/1998 1:54:00 PM
From: DavidG  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 53903
 
Fabeyes.

The 500 million or so will be eaten by the loss of 150 -200 million per quarter PLUS an additional 150 million from the TI DRAM losses. Is my math that bad 200 + 150 = 400, 500 in bank - 400 loss = major trouble?

This is absolute nonsense. There is no basis for MU losing $150-200 million per quarter...Is your math bad??? ....Your whole analysis is bad. You are feeding the rest of the "forever bears" absolute crap. I think you are just pulling numbers out of the air to justify your arguments. Why don't you first cover your shorts or close the PUT positions and then take a second look at the numbers.<g> You are obviously two biased to say anything reasonably correct about the current financial position of MU.

My guess is that at most they lose only $.25 this quarter if DRAM continues in their current trend and for 1Q99 a positive earnings. This of course does not include expected charges for the TXN acquisition which I have no idea as to its amount.

I would probably question your yield numbers you have been throwing around relative to Samsung, just on principal, but I don't know enough about them and have not seen anything in print to refute or support your claims. One thing I do know is that MU is producing as much as they can ship which is more than sufficient for its demand so even if there is the slightest truth to your comments it really doesn't matter.

It appears that you are really going all out to compete with Skeeter for the #1 "forever bear" spot.

DavidG