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To: BillHoo who wrote (16858)	8/18/1998 7:56:00 PM
From: Marc Newman	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213177

<<The less techno users even came to believe that PCs were faster and easier to use, not realizing things like 66mhz Quadra vs. 233mhz Pentium.>> Exactly. My mom's an art teacher in a pc-only high school. She's thinking about bringing in my sister's II SE and my worry is that it will be compared to the more modern pcs in the computer lab. Better to write a grant for an iMac, I'd think. I hope Apple is giving iMac priority to colleges right now. I dropped by the UC-Berkeley student computer store (buried in an administrative building) and the place was jammed. Not having a computer available by the beginning of school is the kind of thing that can drive someone to Windows. I'd rather schools get them now and consumers wait a bit, if necessary. If Apple is building 8000 a day, I'm sure consumer backorders will be mostly filled by the end of Sept. anyway. I also saw the AIO for the first time. Wow. I have to agree with Soup about it being compelling in a bulldog-ugly kind of way. Seems that my local Mac stores are out of 250 mhz PBs. We did have a report on the MF board that someone got theirs from the Apple Store recently, after ordering in mid-July. If Apple is catching up to the demand from mid-July, then I think things are going okay, because orders were huge by that point. Did somebody call the iMac Biondi-blue last night? Are you a Cal grad or just a swimming fan? :) Marc

To: BillHoo who wrote (16858)	8/18/1998 7:59:00 PM
From: Richard Habib	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 213177

You know as a simple tech trader/investor, the emotion a platform can invoke is amazing. Silly me, I would assume someone would use the best product for the particular job, however "best" is defined (Might include things like elegance or style). According to Fred, guess not. Intel is making a concerted effort to push it's high end into the workstation, including the graphic workstation market. At Seybold you'll probably see Xeon multiprocessor 450 Mhz machines, with 2 megs backside cache running at processor speed demoed. From what I can tell these relatively expensive machines are very, very fast. I think it kind of ludicrous to assume a single processor 366 PPC can match that. Jim is still looking for that very high end Mac and yet Apple hasn't said a word about changing from 4 product categories to 5. The refresh of the G3 upped the max ram but didn't do much to make the rest of the machine appeal to the high end graphics market. We also have the speculation that the 366 was not delayed for Seybold but simply because Apple has too much on their plate right now to build them in numbers that would satisfy consumers. So there appears to be nothing that would indicate the 366 will be anything other than a faster G3. Could it be that Apple is satisfied with the 4 product categories and will let those go that need higher or lower performance. Rich

To: BillHoo who wrote (16858)	8/19/1998 1:48:00 AM
From: Doug Fowler	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 213177

While graphics designers may not have a choice when their companies move to PCs, they do have a choice about WHERE they work, and many either move to another company or go independent. I tried to force a PC down a graphics designer's throat a few years ago, and he told me he couldn't work on the PC at the office and started not coming in, choosing to do his work at home. Graphics designers are RELIGIOUS about their Macs. I have had long arguments with them, and have finally given up. I care more about the quality of their work than I do about the tool they use, and the tool they choose is the Mac.

To: BillHoo who wrote (16858)	8/19/1998 9:33:00 AM
From: PDG	Respond to of 213177

Well as a graphic artist, and practically a perpetual student because of the warp speed of new technology, I have made sure to be able to do my work on either a PC or a MAC. The only cross-platform problem is that it is easier to port PC files to a MAC but harder the other way. But since I work with the main Adobe products I haven't run across any problems yet. I just have alot of $$$ invested in my PC systems right now as well as software. I want to start getting into some 3D work soon, and I think right now the PC is a bit more economical for my experimentation. I do not not want to be caught with my pants down if something God-forbid would happen to Apple...I could still be up and running with a PC. I understand that most Graphic designers are so pro-Apple it's almost funny. I don't care WHAT computer you do your work on, if you are a lousy artist, NO computer will make you better! PDG