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To: Paul Engel who wrote (62810)	8/19/1998 8:31:00 PM
From: gnuman	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

Paul Engel. re:<Looks like all the reviews don't agree with your analysis, Gene.> Wasn't an analysis, just some what-if,s. And there will be many different opinions expressed on iMac. Job's appears to be targeting the newbies, (claims there is a market segment of 16 million potential users), and it is very easy to use. If these are people that would never buy WinTel because of complexity, then it's no loss.

To: Paul Engel who wrote (62810)	8/20/1998 1:34:00 PM
From: Hal Rubel	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 186894

iMAC RE: "Even a charitable reading of the iMac specs shows it to be a merely competitive box, roughly on par with similarly priced PCs. ...The iMac has stiff competition: The Acer Entra, for example, sells for a whopping $500 less....the iMac isn't even close to being a price leader: It's blown away by the aggressive clone boxes ...Plus, the Wintel boxes have more applications available -- not a trivial issue. there's no way the iMac is going to make significant inroads in terms of market share. Apple users will remain on the outer fringes of mainstream computing." Please Don't Forget: * iMac runs the Mac OS -Clone Boxes do not. Also: * iMac runs Windows as an option -Clone Boxes do not. * iMac runs Motorola G3 PowerPC Chip -Clone Boxes do not. * iMac claims to be Fast -Clone Boxes do not. * iMac includes built in Monitor -Clone Boxes do not. * iMac has ATI Rage Pro on Motherboard -Clone Boxes do not. * iMac provides pleasant User Experience -Clone Boxes do not. * iMac works as a Powerful Toy -Clone Boxes do not. * iMac competes for Macintosh Users -Clone Boxes do not. * iMac provides "The computer for the rest of us." -Clone Boxes do not. As to making inroads into market share, if Mac users buy more Mac computers, then there will be an increase in Mac market share. (Do the math.) Substance, value, and style will maintain an alternative minority presence in the marketplace for Macintosh in a world otherwise fixated on computing orthodoxy. Hal PS: Name us a must-have computer program that is not one of the 12,000 Macintosh available titles? HR

To: Paul Engel who wrote (62810)	8/21/1998 12:58:00 PM
From: IanBruce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Looks like all the reviews don't agree with your analysis, Gene. Read carefully below. Gee, All the reviews Paul? Kind of a strong statement, don't you think? Gene Parrott may have had it right the first time. Instead of opinions, why don't we try a little reality. From: Reuters News Service: <http://www.techserver.com/newsroom/ntn/info/082098/info9_7148_noframes.html> ComputerWare, San Francisco Bay Area retailer with 10 stores, did exit surveys of 500 customers who purchased the iMac at its stores. The surveys showed that nearly 15% of the buyers of Apple Computer Inc.'s iMac were buying a computer for the first time. Perhaps more interestingly, 13% of the buyers were replacing a Windows-based personal computer. So fully 28% of retail iMac purchasers were not "the Mac Faithful", but rather people who did not own a Mac, or never owned a computer at all. According to News.com today: ...assuming this trend continues and the percentages hold up, iIf Apple sells 400,000 iMacs by the end of the year -- which is at the lower end of analyst estimates -- that would translate into about 50,000 units shipped to "converted" Windows users. If first-time buyers are included, that would jump to 120,000 users who have been won over to the Macintosh. The poll was conducted by Market Metrics, a Los Gatos, Calif.-based market research firm, specializing in retail and distribution sales tracking. And while your chewing on that... T.H.E. Report, a publication on educational technology for K-12 and higher education, said this year educational institutions will spend close to $12 billion on computers, software, networks, and other technology-related goods. One very surprising aspect of the survey shows that: "Although most of the respondents were Windows95 users, 24 percent of those planning to purchase additional microcomputers named Macintosh as their computer of choice." Ian Bruce New York, NY