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To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (271)	8/26/1998 9:35:00 AM
From: Len	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1542

Emile I made it a point in my post NOT to accuse you of hatred for Jews. If you notice, I specified "apparent," and even then, was discussing others comments to you, not mine. Here you defend something that wasn't alleged. And, if your opposition is truly not based on hatred, why do we never see your opposition to Buddhism, Taoism, Islam, and others that are based upon their rejection and ridicule of Jesus .... And, no, it is probably NOT possible to to criticize anything to do with modern Judaism or Zionism without their leadership accusing you of being antisemitic. Is it so hard to understand their sensitivity in this area? Sure, they overdue it often, but do not Christian and other leaders claim religious hatred when they are attacked? Come on, this kind of falling back on easy claims of bigotry isn't the exclusive domain of the Jews. What you forget is that the Jews have been hated and mistreated since the time of Jesus, when they were blamed for his treatment. Israel was formed to give the Jews some safe place of sanctuary, since most of the world hated them and resisted their presence. And modern Judaism hasn't cleverly crafted antisemitism to be used as a weapon. Perhaps extremists like the Zionists use it that way, but what extreme group doesn't use such claims to bolster their position? Antisemitism, sadly, has been around since the time of Jesus, so please don't insult your readers with that claim. What IS true, obviously, is that you are obsessed with this subject. Whether it is hatred, or some twisted indoctrination that you have suffered, I'll leave to the experts. When you decide to equally dish out your littanies of criticisms to other religions not based upon their rejection and ridicule of Jesus, your credibility might not be so challenged.

To: Emile Vidrine who wrote (271)	8/26/1998 7:36:00 PM
From: Alan Markoff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1542

I have no hatred for Jews. That's the biggest JOKE on the face of this earth. No HATE.......... Now you may think I am brain dead but the words you deem to spout out have HATE written all over them thats right Emile pure GREEN puke... You hide behind religion to spout your horse manure and your dogmatic attitude not just towards Jews but anyone who is not in 100% agreement with your dictatorship I light Dogma. No hatred.......... Well me being Jewish should have some feelings on this issue........ Your as hateful as they come. Alan