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Politics : Bill Clinton Scandal - SANITY CHECK -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (834)8/27/1998 2:45:00 PM
From: Charlie Schultz  Respond to of 67261
 
I agree Michelle. Why do they call Clinton a buba?

Charlie



To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (834)8/27/1998 3:12:00 PM
From: wallacestevens  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 67261
 
In my defense, I didn't say women, I said stupid women. I can only think that women who believe they have never been hurt by the gun lobby, the nicotine lobby, the insurance lobby, or the religious right must be stupid. Of course, the other alternative is brainwashed.

This is a long post; I am adding this paragraph in the editing phase to say to my friend Michelle: thank you. When I made the comment that there is no accounting for stupid women, I knew there would be an onslaught of ire. I just sat back and enjoyed it. Thank Asherah that there are many more smart and compassionate women than stupid ones.

gun lobby: relentlessly works toward one aim, to enhance the profitability of selling guns. Hence, no controls of any kind will ever be allowed by them. How many women's lives have been devastated by this blind worship of such a deadly phallic symbol?

nicotine lobby: pushing the idea that tobacco will keep you thin -- and therefore acceptible as a human being. Who cares you rot from the inside out, as long as you're good to look at? Notice how many teenage girls smoke (and stink) these days.

insurance lobby: in a word, Viagra. Insurance carriers pay for men to get it up, but resist all efforts to require them to pay for birth control pills. This attitude permeates the health insurance business. It took an act of Congress (those busybody buttinskies) to make drug companies test their products for efficacy in women. Till then, all studies were done for men only.

religious right: what can I say? The god of monotheism, Yahweh, has always had it in for women, and that attitude has shaped the course of western civilization. The main objective of the prophets of Yahweh from post-exilic times forward has been the destruction of the goddess.

Just read Kings 1 and Kings 2. All the kings of Judah and Israel (yes, the kingdom split during the reign of Rehoboam, Solomon's son, because Rehoboam -- well, that's going too far afield). Anyway, all the kings are described as either doing good or evil in the eyes of Yahweh. (By the way, whenever it says "the Lord" in the bible, that is a substitute for "Yahweh". When the priests decided no one could say his name, new copies of the scrolls replaced the name Yahweh with "the Lord.") There was only one criterion for ending up on the good side or the evil side: whether or not the king allowed the worship of other gods, including the goddess Asherah who was the goddess the women worshipped. Yahweh was the god of the militant men. (Yahweh Sabaoth, or Lord of Hosts, means "warrior god".)

As time went by, goddess worship was associated with prostitution (metaphorically) and was cited as the reason that the Judahites were taken into captivity in Babylon. When Cyrus let them go back to Judah and rebuild the temple, the Yahweh-only faction of the priesthood started pushing their "agenda".

They won.




To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (834)8/27/1998 5:04:00 PM
From: RJC2006  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 67261
 
<<<<Excuse me but I find the religious right to be far more threatening than any one individuals conduct, even if its the President, and this argument is even more pronounced based on the fact that I cant get any real facts out of this Starr investigation so any judgement on this issue would be presumption on my part. This does not mean that I condone anything the President has alledgedly done.>>>

<thumbing through The Liberal's Dictionary....>

RIGHT WING noun. 1. Commonly referred to as human beings that attend religious services. 2. Those having a certain set of moral values as portrayed in the Christian Bible most notably the Ten Commandments. 3. Characterized by liberal thinkers as despots in the 1990s based solely from disagreement on thoughts and ideas. 4. Typically anyone who disagreed with one of liberal thinking such as Republicans to include even those considered of moderate temper. right winger , right winged

<<<You know people, just as a general rule, if some poster here has an attitude problem or resorts to nasty personal attacks then the replies tend to also be emotional sound bytes. Im sure thats what happened here with my friend Wallace Stevens. >>>

No, your friend Wallace is an idiot regardless.

<<<Not that I am not guilty of the same behavior btw.>>>

Welcome to the neighborhood.

<<<I dont see any evidence that any one individual has some sort of higher level intellectual capacity here vs any other.>>>

Ahh come on, don't go here.

<<<I do concede that someone who is say, a lawyer might be more equipped to argue the legal points of this issue vs. some of us technical types.

Yeah, just ask the Clintons. <smirk>

<<<Which is not to say that their opinion is more valid on the morality issues.>>>

<LAUGH> Yeah, a lawyer with higher moral values then us technical types.<GUFFAW>

You're all right Michelle. I don't care what wallace says.