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To: Anonymous who wrote (3841)8/30/1998 1:34:00 PM
From: Sonki  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 21876
 
Here is some FA info. on LU. Lu, dell, msft, csco are all probably over priced compred to hisotrial valuations. I do not know how much valations can be tolerated cuz of low inflation.

also one must look at low inflation vs. the actual rate (which is higher) so probabillty of rate dropping. All this changes LU FA value. LU long term growth is 20-25% and is trading at 44 forward pe. Sept being the 4th qurter their earning will be 44% above last yr.

LU has been coming down very rapidly on higher volumen then avrg. so it is my hope that will hold 80, but could go down to 70 if other bad news from the sector shows up.

i have some LU from before the split and bot again last week and i will buy again at 70. unless i see a lot better value somewhere else.
this is the best answer i can up with

The 1998 and 1999
EPS estimates were raised to $1.62 from $1.55, and to $2.00 from $1.85, respectively, to
reflect revisions in earnings estimates. A BUY rating was maintained. The 12 month price
target is $90 based on the company's relative strength, earnings power, and market
leadership. The company reported 1998 second quarter EPS of $0.14 versus $0.05 in the
same period last year. Earnings were driven by stronger than expected sales in Systems for
Network Operators and the Business Communications Systems divisions.'



To: Anonymous who wrote (3841)8/30/1998 2:13:00 PM
From: larry  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 21876
 
Anonymous,

Everyone, bears or bulls, on this thread, probably can list 10 to 20 different reasons why the stock market is in trouble. However, here I want to do sth different. I am listing several reason that I believe are more than enough to offset those worries:

1) Russia is in trouble. However, the whole Russia market cap is about half of that of Mcdonald.

2) China has to devalue its currency in the near future. However, Chinese government has just informed major banks that it won't devalue yuan unless yen devalues significantly more to 170 against the dollar.

3) A majority of Fed members now believe that if the Fed maintains the interest intact, it is equal to tightening under such circumstances.

4) The US economy is still robust and showing no signs of recession. AG has publicly and privately stated numerous times that 'this is the best period for the US economy that he has ever seen in his life'. It's also no secret that AG is working at devicing a model in which both high growth of economy and low inflation can coexist thanks to the rapid development of high tech.

I think that we are witnessing one of the most amazing achievement of the economy that the high tech is growing so fast forward that it allows a well managed economy to robustly go forth while meeting no serious pressure from inflation. This transition might take years for everyone to realize and if that's true, we will have to agree with Ms. Cohen that we can't use to old rules to measure the vale of the stock market.

The market is driven by fundamentals, and lots of times by greed and fear. We have seen these two extremes in the not far past and it will certainly continue. However, as long as the fundamentals for the US economy remains intact, there is no reason for the US market to welcome the arrival of bears.

I remain a bullish stance with respect to the US market: It can recover toward 9000 by the end of the year and make a rally toward 10 k next summer.

good luck,
larry!



To: Anonymous who wrote (3841)8/31/1998 12:53:00 AM
From: ed  Respond to of 21876
 
Mr. Anonymous,

Noone can answer your question. But things I do know are

1) Russia do not have much business with the rest of the world in the past, and
in the past 10 years Russia is a more a burden to the rest of the world . What will it matter if you cut off the cancers from your body ?

2) Asia had gone through its worst in the past one and a half years, and things will not getting any worse, it only means better.

3) Hong Kong is fighting with oversea fund managers who are trying to knock down Hong Kong's stock market , and destroying its economy. The reserved fund is
more than 30 billion US dollars for that war, and more can be available if needed.
Solos may lose big time this time.

4) Money from 401k, oversea , is continuing flowing into the US market.

5) In the middle East countries, they are still selling oils, and no problem in its economy.

6) China had announced it will hold up its currency, and I bet it will keep its promise.

7) Europe is continuing to be strong.

8) Allen Grrenspan may think about cut rate in the next couple of months.
Rate is too high comparing to the current inflation rate ( deflation).The problem in
the economy is not inflation , but deflation. Deflation will kill every company, and
everybody.If the more companies sell, the more they lose, companies will lay off
all of their employee and close their doors. Pretty soon, only Mr. Greenspan will
have a job.

9) The DOW contains only 30 some stocks, and the Nasdaq only some 50 stocks, but
if you look at the broader pictures, you will see most of the small to medium stocks had already gone through a bear market since last October.

AMD from 40 to $15, LSI from $47 to $14, VLSI from $30 to $13, AMAT from $50 to $28 , PSFT from $58 to $34, SEG from $50 to $23, Qntm from $37 to $16,
WDC from $45 to $12 ....etc, you name it, they are now pretty much hit the bottom.
As to the big cap, they will continue to be the heaven of investors, and hold pretty well. The world money needs a place to go, the 401k, the hot money, and the top choice is the US big cap stocks with good quality and fundamentals.
So, since last OCT, there are actually two market, one is the small and medium cap market, which went through a serious correction and it is now pretty much hit the bottom, and the big cap market which held pretty well and continue hit all time high.
As to the history of the market, well, you can not compare today's market with the market of 30 years ago. 30 years ago, we do not have overseas money to invest in the US stock market, and we do not have 401k money pool ...etc, and many things are different if you compare today with yesterday.

As to where the stock market will go, well it is everyone's guess , tell you the
truth , I do not know , but optimistic.