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Pastimes : Ask God -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: mark silvers who wrote (20460)	8/31/1998 7:57:00 PM
From: John S.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Hello Mark, Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm getting the impression that you actually discount the bible as the word of God at all. If so then I'm supposing that you have developed your own notion as to what our creator should be like, based upon your own standards. The bible definitely refutes what you have described so far Mark, extensively regarding works. He is a God of love full of mercy and patience, yet He is also just. To create us without the ability to choose would produce what I think Dan has been making light of (Zombitrons). With the concept of a perfect God, inerrant and our creator, how do we suppose to judge that which has made us? The bible uses the example of the pot asking the pot maker, why have you made me this way? It is for the maker to decide the workings of His creation. As for eternal punishment for sin. According to the bible it is a fact. You state you cannot believe that and without a belief in the bible I cannot hope to convince you of such. Instead what I would ask of you (you may well already be doing it) is this. In whatever way you perceive God please go to Him in prayer and simply ask Him for wisdom. Regarding the punishment for sin, may I offer this for thought. It is not the sins of murder, adultery, hate, idolatry or the host of things that people are capable of doing that put anyone in Hell or if you prefer, separates them from God. It is only the sin of rejecting Christ, God's way of salvation that will do that. Again that is scriptualy based. It will only be the Holy Spirit that can reveal this to you, not any words of wisdom from your friends here of which it would appear you have many, all praying for you including myself. Proverbs 14:12 says "There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death." How can we, being the creation, suppose ourselves to be wiser than the creator imposing our standards of what we think He aught to be upon Him? If we don't have the bible as a foundation, what can we rely upon? Our own inerrant ways? God bless you Mark, John