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To: X Y Zebra who wrote (495)	9/4/1998 12:48:00 PM
From: Chris land	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1542

<<<<While they are free to pursue their type of education under a private school, however they DO NOT have the right to impose their ideas at their will and ignoring present law, implementing religious indoctrination and prayer in public school. Again, read PUBLIC SCHOOL, SUCH IS AGAINST CURRENT LAW. >>>> Since public school was originally established by the Christians for the purpose of educating the young people in Godly principles and virtues, along with the essential tenants of things like reading , writing, and arithmetic, prayer must remain a fundamental right. Also, almost every old and well established college was founded upon Christian principles as well. Chris

To: X Y Zebra who wrote (495)	9/4/1998 1:22:00 PM
From: mark silvers	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1542

XYZ <<they have every right to pursue their ideals for education, as we have the right to work against it. No, actually they do not. That is the law. >> They have every right to voice their opinions and to work towards changing laws they are not in agreement with. That is a basic right in America. and their are mountains of case law suporting that. You seem to want to deny everyone's rights who doesnt agree with you, or dismiss it as senseless. I find that very shortsighted. <<As a sample I submit to you, that under IRS regulations Churches and religious organizations are forbidden to influence public policy, if they do, they lose their tax free status. (the fact that they enjoy tax free status, I find it objectionable, but I guess that is a different topic). People like you is what they expect to find, do not believe me, go read some history books, start with the rise of Hitler in Germany.>> The religious right, do not give up basic freedoms because they are religious. You are free to belong to any relgious organizations and still enjoy the same basic rights as a private citizen. YOu may still belong to a religious organization and work towards changing any policy you want. Your attempt to deny them of these rights, and the blanket name calling and assumptions you continually spout are much closer to tyranical rantings than you may care to admit. You continually employ the same tactics that accuse the religious right of attempting. that you cant see that is amusing to me. <<How can you possibly know, in which way have these type of people affected my personal life?>> I dont need to, nor do I want to. Guilt is an emotion. You are responsible ultimately for your own emotions. Guilt is something you feel, not something inflicted on you. People can try to inflict it on you, but it is ultimately the individual who either feels or doesnt feel the emotion. <<You take offense at my reaction. Well that is your problem, my view is they do not have the right to impose their views on others and I have the right to privacy, therefore I will defend such right, according to the law, contrary to their methods, which in many instances they brake current law. And yet you continually attempt to deny others of the sames rights under the same laws. I dont take offense at your posts, I am just enjoying pointing out this irony to you. mark