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To: Dayuhan who wrote (679)	9/7/1998 2:41:00 AM
From: Zeev Hed	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1542

Steven, not that I disagree with you but a question comes to mind, who gave us the right to question "the acts of the almighty?" You see we are coming back to a very basic question, somewhat related to Russell's axiom of choice in mathematics. When I underwent my "transformation" from a "pious Jew" to (then) an atheistic Jew, I had to find some arrangements that will provide a social environment more amenable to "my newly found truth". Well, it ain't simple for a 12 year old kids to tell "Management" get me out of here, but that was what I had to do. I remember quite succinctly a meeting I arranged with then the head of the Jewish Agency in Israel to plead my case. When I told him that I think the almighty should atone to us rather than we atone to him, he told me very sincerely, "who are you little turd to make such an important decisions." I had to think fast on my feet and I formulated a "proof" that the almighty does not and could not exist, I said to him, "God, if it exists is omnipotent, but he cannot make a stone so heavy that he cannot carry it, thus, he is not omnipotent, thus he does not exists." It took me another eight years to realize that Salomon was right, and nothing is new under the sun. That "contradiction" is nothing more then Russell's Axiom of choice. That is also when I reasoned that I will be an agnostic Jew rather then an atheist Jew. Thus coming back to that question above, who gave us the right to question God's morale, motive or even existence? Well, no one, some chose to take that right and some chose not to. Zeev