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To: Zeev Hed who wrote (136)	9/7/1998 1:00:00 PM
From: SOROS	Respond to of 1151

I agree with your "power corrupts". I also agree with your "conspiracy". You see, I don't want to get off on my "personal" beliefs which may label me as irrational. I want to report the news while having everyone keep in mind the prophecy connection. Clinton was the "chosen" one for the period. In fact, I thought he would remain that one. If indeed he is wanted in that position, you will see a miracle happen. But I suspect, the powers that be have another way to accomplish their "goals", and they are tired of Clinton NOT being able to control, or at least conceal, his animalistic tendencies, hence, your "conspiracy" is simply an unplanned for, but now inserted new Chapter in their grand global novel. You now see, Zeev, that I am much more "conspiracy" oriented than you. Although, I prefer to use the word, "informed". I try not to get fixated on each "little" conspiracy in history of which there are many. The sheep always concentrate on the minutiae, while the plot slowly surrounds them, and they find themselves in the Finale saying, "how did we get here?". We are almost at this point -- the purpose of this thread is to help others see this. The world is sleeping in the dark, yet the Church is asleep in the Light. That is why it will be like a thief in the night. If they would only open their eyes, the final act in this play would be no surprise. I remain, SOROS

To: Zeev Hed who wrote (136)	9/7/1998 1:46:00 PM
From: Carl R.	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1151

Zeev, as far as actual accomplishments, the Clinton presidency has been fine, though part of the credit belongs with the Congress. As a Libertarian I prefer to see the presidency held by one party and the congress by the other as it slows down the rate of legislation, which in my opinion is a good thing. <G> But in terms of accomplishments I find no fault with Nixon, either. The problem isn't that Nixon bugged the Watergate hotel. The problem isn't when and with who Clinton had sex (except to the extent that having a sexual relationship with a subordinate could be sexual harassment). The essential questions for both men are the same: Did they abuse the power of their office to conceal their misdeeds? Did they lie to the American people? And if the answer to these questions is yes, then do they belong in office? Myself I'd rather have a president that I respect, but with whom I disagree, than one who lies to me. As for Ken Starr, I respect his determination, and his ability to stay focused despite a continuing stream of negative publicity. As far as destroying the presidency, I think the risk of destruction of the presidency by turning it into an imperial presidency where the president is above the law is at least as much an issue as the risk of weakening it. Frankly if Clinton had just admitted the relationship(s), sincerely apologized, and not tried to cover them up, I think the whole matter would have blown over long ago. Carl

To: Zeev Hed who wrote (136)	9/7/1998 2:50:00 PM
From: SOROS	Read Replies (8) \| Respond to of 1151

* SI "Suicide/Murder" Poll -- Please post your answers ** Please respond to THIS message and thread so I can keep an accurate tally. I'm sure everyone has seen this, but do you have an opinion on it? I, personally, have only known 1 person in my lifetime who has committed suicide and perhaps 1 other that could somehow be "connected" to me. I know of ZERO murders with this relationship. How many have you known? techstocks.com I will keep an updated list of those that answer: 9/7/98 -- # of people you know personally, or are connected to you that have committed suicide or been murdered. SOROS 1

To: Zeev Hed who wrote (136)	9/7/1998 11:18:00 PM
From: SOROS	Respond to of 1151

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To: Zeev Hed who wrote (136)	9/7/1998 11:20:00 PM
From: Joss	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1151

Hi Zeev, I usually find myself agreeing with you on many subjects, however, you suprised me on this one: one needs to differentiate the affair of state and his personal affairs. The law of the land and how it is being currently enforced is a direct result of the policies of this administration. Specifically, If as an officer of a corporation, head of a school or school board or any other position of authority, a male were to have an affair with a subordinate...consensual or not...and the affair were discovered, he risks termination and lawsuit. This environment was, in large part created through the appointment of judges and the subsequent rulings of those judges. (no not all sex harrasment rulings came from Clinton appointees, I realize.) My point is: If the rest of America must live with these laws...I am not saying they are bad, just that they are the present interpretation of present laws....then the President who espouses this agenda should have to live with these laws as well. I really don't like hypocracy and don't, as a citizen of this great republic, feel that I must live by one set of laws and have my elected leaders be allowed to ignore those same laws. That is wrong no mater how you slice it. Monica worked in the White House. Therefore, Moinca was a subordinate of the President. This affair took place (alegedly) within governmental offices...not the residence. Sorry Zeev, I just don't think you can get there from here ... (private affair) Regards, Steve

To: Zeev Hed who wrote (136)	9/8/1998 2:39:00 PM
From: SOROS	Respond to of 1151

CNNfn - 09/08/98 TOKYO (Reuters) - Japan, marking the end of its third year of record low interest rates, said on Tuesday its economy had slipped further into a rut amid turmoil in global financial markets. "Japan is not in a deflationary spiral, but is near the entrance. There is a danger of being sucked into one, and the main reason for that is the international environment," Economic Planning Agency (EPA) Minister Taichi Sakaiya said. He told a regular news conference the main factor driving Japan to the edge of a deflationary spiral was economic and political confusion in Russia and Asia, which was spreading to other economies such as those of Latin America. "Should the international environment worsen beyond expectations, Japan must be on the lookout. It would need to take more drastic steps," Sakaiya said. The government's monthly economic report, issued by the EPA on Tuesday, showed recent falls in Tokyo share prices and sliding long-term interest rates were deepening the gloom surrounding an economy mired in a prolonged slump. The EPA report maintained its overall assessment that the economy was in a "prolonged slump," but changed the wording to describe conditions as "extremely severe" instead of "exceedingly severe." "We revised our assessment slightly downwards by changing the expression to show an increase in severity," Takashi Omori, national economic division director of the EPA's Research Bureau, told reporters. The EPA report did not take into account this week's dramatic rebound in Japanese shares and the yen. Tokyo stocks ended Tuesday morning trade up 2.32 percent at 15,132.72 -- the first time the key indicator had regained the 15,000 point level since August 26. The dollar, which traded at over 147 yen in mid-August, was at 131.99/04 at Tuesday midday. Despite a drastic step taken three years ago on Tuesday to cut its official discount rate to a record low 0.5 percent -- where it has stayed ever since - Japan has failed to attain a strong economic recovery. Concerted action Speculation even emerged last week that the Bank of Japan might be forced to further ease the rate in a concerted action with the United States to help the global economy. But Finance Minister Kiichi Miyazawa denied such discussions took place during his meetings with U.S. Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan and U.S. Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin in San Francisco on Friday. "There was no such discussion and there was no atmosphere like that either," Miyazawa told a regular news conference. Rubin urged Japan, as the world's second-biggest economy after the United States, to do more to deal with a global crisis that had begun affecting Wall Street, Miyazawa said. "He wanted us to do something more, quickly. But when I asked what, he was not specific," Miyazawa said, repeating that the United States did not want to "carry the baggage of the world alone." The EPA's economic report provided no new ideas on what should be done for the economy, merely repeating that the government would quickly carry out economic stimulus measures through smooth implementation of extra and full state budgets, along with over six trillion yen ($45.4 billion) in tax cuts. "It is uncertain whether these measures will be sufficient to lift the economy, but they will surely support it," Sakaiya said.