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To: Zeev Hed who wrote (707)	9/7/1998 6:05:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1542

"For each story of a misguided Jew converting to Christianity and then spitting in his water well, one can get a story of a non Jew converting to Judaism and doing the same spitting in their own water wells (like the Khuzars?). " Again you avoid with cute comments and meaningless statements. I dare you to produce the works of any Christian convert to Judaism that show a similar literature of hatred as the Talmud contains. You are just running your mouth and cannot produce such a source. Come one, give us just one story of "a non Jew converting to Judaism and doing the same spitting in their water wells." barff. The Khazars were pagans when they converted to Judaism. They had no understanding nor history with Christianity. Their knowledge of Christianity came from the Babylonian Talmud. As Arthur Koestler points out in the Thirteenty Tribe, the Khazars adopted and applied the Talmud more vehemently than all other Jews. The Khazars never really understood the Torah and always prefered the Talmud. Emile

To: Zeev Hed who wrote (707)	9/7/1998 7:04:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Respond to of 1542

"Instead of giving me citations of converts selectively mis-citing the Talmud," Former Rabbi Frydland did not mis-cite the Talmud as you imply. This is only another of your false and tricky assumptions(I am tempted to day your talmudic assumptions at obfuscating truth.) You provide absolutely no evidence that Mr. Frydland is mis-citing, only conjecture that helps further your false claims. Emile

To: Zeev Hed who wrote (707)	9/7/1998 7:14:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1542

"why don't you give me the tractate in the Talmud where these things are taught?" OK! Sanhedrin, 67a -- Jesus referred to as the son of Pandira, a soldier Kallah, 1b. (18b) -- Illegitimate and conceived during menstruation. Sanhedrin, 67a -- Hanged on the eve of Passover. Toldath Jeschu. Birth related in most shameful expressions Abhodah Zarah II -- Referred to as the son of Pandira, a Roman soldier. Schabbath XIV. Again referred to as the son of Pandira, the Roman. Schabbath, 104b -- Called a fool and no one pays attention to fools. Toldoth Jeschu. Judas and Jesus engaged in quarrel with filth. Sanhedrin, 103a. -- Suggested corrupts his morals and dishonors self. Zohar III, (282) -- Died like a beast and buried in animal's dirt heap. Orach Chaiim, 113 -- Avoid appearance of paying respect to Jesus. Iore dea, 150,2 -- Do not appear to pay respect to Jesus by accident. --------------- I hope this will suffice. You told me that according to your perception, Torah was the center and essential teachings of modern Judaism. You spoke of the Talmud as simply a hedge around to Torah to protect Torah from contamination. I have many quotes from some of the chief Rabbis around the world that contend that the Babylonian Talmud is more important than the Torah. Also, why only the Torah and not the whole Old Testament. Why does modern Judaism separate the Torah from the rest of the Old Testament as if to say the rest is no good or not from God? Emile

To: Zeev Hed who wrote (707)	11/24/1998 11:18:00 PM
From: O'Hara	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1542

><>...You know not of what you speak ...><> Jesus The Christ, The Messiah, The Saviour of the world, and the most perfect man that ever lived, God in the flesh!!.. was in no way a mamzer! You speak only those evil lies which have been handed down to you. That is blasphemy! And you, and all who teach such vileness, will be held accountable to God, unless you and the teachers of this most evil atrocity make atonement! mamzer (mam-zare'); born of a Jewish father and a heathen mother: The above definition is the exact, and only definition, and somehow I think you know it. The reason you probably so daringly and arrogantly call Jesus the Messiah a mamzer, is because you probably have been falsely taught that His mother Mary was a prostitute, and therefore could not have been a Jew,( God forbid)! Beside the fact that you were also falsely taught that His Father was not a Jew either, but in fact a Roman soldier. I too have read those abominable lies! As well as many others against the Son Of God.....The Messiah, Jesus the Christ! To even say Jesus the Messiah and mamzer in the same sentence is an outrage,. It is likened to spitting in the face of God.! Also in your arrogance you wrote: You think God gets special treatment in Judaism? He needs to atone for "coveting" just as we all do. A chosen soul of God would not be so arrogant, and so foolish, as to speak such vile words of condemnation of a most Holy and Almighty God! ___________ ___________ John 8:42 42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. I do not intend to have any further conversation with you,this was my first and last, so there is no need to respond unless you experience a change of heart. I will not even read any of your posts, so do not waste your time. I only happened on this one of yours while reading another's. Shalom...><>