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To: JGoren who wrote (14702)9/8/1998 10:13:00 AM
From: tero kuittinen  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 152472
 
JGoren, the only people I have "attacked personally" are some republican senators. I'm sure they can take it. I have never said that Ericsson holds the moral higher ground, I'm only pointing out that Qualcomm is at least on the same level, if not lower. I'm not politicizing these issues, either - Qualcomm has already done that and I'm merely pointing it out. I don't see how blanket denouncements of European Union internal decision making made regularly in this thread are OK, but comments on US decision making are "prejudice". Could everybody who ever characterized EU and ETSI as "socialistic" and "biased" stand up and acknowledge that they are prejudiced?

Qualcomm is not negotiating in good faith: they made big demands and are now threatening with trade war if they are not accepted. They are ruthlessly exploiting the fact that the rest of the world is scared of the republican-dominated US senate. A neutral American component manufacturer VLSI pointed out in a recent Businessweek article that Qualcomm has been making unreasonable demands. If you don't accept this kind of evidence as a sign that Qcom is acting recklessly, what would you accept?

Tero



To: JGoren who wrote (14702)9/8/1998 10:15:00 AM
From: Harvey Rosenkrantz  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 152472
 
Good new for Omnitracs, there is a potential for a unit in each locomotive.

newspage.com



To: JGoren who wrote (14702)9/8/1998 10:29:00 AM
From: marginmike  Respond to of 152472
 
Tero I have said this before and I will say it again. Europe is historically projectionist, merchantilistic, and narrow minded when it comes to trade. The USA has historically preached Laizais-faire, open door policies around the world. This is why the world sinks while the USA steams along. The United States has always used its political might to open up markets. ETSI is doing what the Europeans are used to. They are cowering in fear of the US dominance of another industry. Their response is to try to defend the one area of technology they have some advantage in. The United States government, though often incompetent, has historically taken a hard line against people who would close their markets to the USA. In the 1800's it was China, in the 1970-80's it was Japan. This historical conflict wont go away because of your wishing it will

The Europeans are in a tenuous position, as are the Japanese. There is a new threat in Eastern Europe as well as possible problems with the Soviet Union. There have never been more possible trouble spots for regional conflict, and anarchy. Who do you think that France,japan,Germany, Sweeden,etcetcetc are going to look for to deal with these problems. That's right the good old USA, with its good old boy Soutern republicans, Texans, Lecherous presidents and all. Do you think that the Europeans would risk a trade war in this type of world environment? They are going to make a compromise. It might not be great For Qcom, but it will maintain Qcom's rights under international law. There will never be a situation in which Qcom is shut out of Europe, or in which WCDMA is taken without Q approval. It's just not going to happen. The US government will not allow it.

TERO your arguments are shallow, and are tired. The day of reckoning is coming so you better get ready to deal with it



To: JGoren who wrote (14702)9/8/1998 6:14:00 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Respond to of 152472
 
If it is true that right wingers represent private property and less confiscation of it for the greater good, and left wingers represent collectivist, all for one and one for all, what's yours is ours all lovey dovey together, then Tero is quite right to see right wingers as the enemy if the left wingers are trying to steal Qualcomm's rights to cdmaOne technology.

Mqurice

To all: ***General rant follows*** Probably best to ignore.

The labels left and right winger seem so contaminated that I don't think they are used with any clarity or thought these days. A bit like the word racist. I heard that white people have a higher average intelligence than black people. And Japanese have higher average intelligence than white people. And Jews are higher too. By using the words left-winger, or racist, one doesn't have to think anymore.

Sensible people accept generalisations as true, but understand the generalisation doesn't apply to individuals. Racist stupid ones think that because they are Japanese or Caucasian they are smarter/better etc than black people or that because somebody has got high resistance to melanoma due to evolutionary advantage they are stupid. [Racists will have trouble figuring that one out!]

Americans are prone to adopt the same attitude to aliens, thinking mistakenly that because they are American, they are hot stuff. "Yeah, we invented cdam, so shove that up your bum you stinking commie Europians" - forgeting that it was actually Klein, Andrew, Irwin and pals who did it. Not Americans.

You can go here for some thinking:
jewishworldreview.com

Heck, I'm no racist. Some of my best friends are black sheep! Heck, there are even black sheep in my family.