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Pastimes : Ask God -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: IN_GOD_I_TRUST who wrote (20629)	9/8/1998 3:04:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

"The Faith of Abraham SEED continued in God's covenant. They always had the faith of the New Covenant. Lets look at scripture:" Not so, Steve. No one could continue and fulfill the old covenant; this is why Jesus had to come and fulfill it himself and give us his righteouness. The Old Testament saints simply believed God as Abraham had done and it was counted tothem for righteouness before the fact of the Crucifixion and Resurrection of Jesus. The Old Testament saints were never Born Again nor did they ever get the baptism of the Holy Spirit. The Born Again experience had to wait for the Crucifixion , Resurrection and baptism of the Holy Spirit, but that did not mean that the Old testaments saints were not saved. God assures us in Hebrews that they were and that we are saved with a similar faith as they had but into a far greater covenant that was confirmed in the blood of Jesus. They had the faith of the New Covenant but they did not have the recreated spirit and laws written on their hearts nor the the baptism of the Holy Spirit. John the Baptist was the greates man that ever lived but the least in the Kingdom of God is greater than him. This means that even the greatest Old Testament saint still was not Born Again and filled with the Holy Spirit---this is what permits us to be the sons of God and enter into the Kingdom of God. The Kingdom of God is not meat and drink but righteouness, peace and joy in the Holy Ghost. This was not available under the old covenant. Lets hear your opinion. Tonight I might have time to get in to your Galaitian Scriptures and the Roman Scriptures and others where Paul explains some of these ministries that God gave him about this subject. In the love of Christ Emile