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To: TheRainmaker who wrote (20850)9/8/1998 4:25:00 PM
From: Daniel Schuh  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 24154
 
This case is about politics and Microsoft can play better than anyone at that game. I therefore put my money on MSFT.

Tim, how can this be? Bill's just a naive software engineer, unfairly done in by politics. Microsoft plays politics? What an unfair aspersion to cast. I'm shocked, shocked! that you would say such a thing.

Or maybe Bill was just using the Microsoft definition of honesty when he said that.

Cheers, Dan.



To: TheRainmaker who wrote (20850)9/8/1998 4:38:00 PM
From: nommedeguerre  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 24154
 
Tim,

>>The majority of the world is pro-microsoft and anti-government.

Then why doesn't the majority vote to change what they don't like?

Most people hate that small portion of the Gov which has in some way inconvenienced them personally. Those parts which benefit them are of course just fine examples of Democracy in action. A person can always expatriate if things get any worse for them.

Cheers,

Norm



To: TheRainmaker who wrote (20850)9/8/1998 5:59:00 PM
From: Justin Banks  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 24154
 
Tim -

The majority of the world is pro-microsoft and anti-government. The handful of pro-Sun and Oracle spoilers in relation to the rest of the world is alike a nat on my _ss.

Okay, say you're running a business. You need a database, and I mean a real transactional database, not that flatfile grep-behind-a-gui access thing. You need hardware and software. Are you really willing to pay umpteen gazillion dollars for the needed per-seat licenses from MSFT, or are you going to ...

news.com

MSFT is going to have it's lunch eaten, sorry, it's just a matter of time.

This case is about politics and Microsoft can play better than anyone at that game. I therefore put my money on MSFT.

So you think that people will just blindly keep on shelling out dollars to MSFT for shitty software forever? Why? I'm not talking the case here (which isn't really about politics if the DOJ can get some decent expert witnesses that know software from a hole in the ground), I'm talking about a sustainable business model that isn't based on FUD, greed, and deception.

FWIW, I don't think Solaris is the way to go, either, it's just too slow, and runs on too little and too expensive hardware. It doesn't have a niche. NT's niche is productivity apps and enterprise apps combined. Linux has got a decent productivity solution, and people are starting to line up to supply the enterprise apps. MSFT just doesn't get that they can't fight it.

-justinb



To: TheRainmaker who wrote (20850)9/8/1998 7:20:00 PM
From: Charles Hughes  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 24154
 
>>> You sound like a spolier.

Que? You sound like you tipple a bit before posting. It hurts the aim, increases the pugnaciousness and makes one a bit vague, doesn't it? Not to mention the spelling, as above.

>>> The majority of the world is pro-microsoft and anti-government.

I doubt the *whole* world spends much time thinking about Microsoft, let alone developing allegiance to it. There is a growing neo-facist movement out there though, like those fools that blew up the Federal building in Oklahoma. Perhaps that is what you mean. If those are the allies MSFT can count on they are in serious trouble. But I suppose you mean that 20% of Whigged-out Repubs that fantasize that nobody ever helped them on their way up, and see the nation's laws as an impediment with no positive value whatever. A rather boring group on the whole, and not very well read.

>>> This case is about politics and Microsoft can play better than anyone at that game.

Right. If that were true they would not be in this negative spotlight. They are mediocre at politics, and mediocre at technology as well. The case has a foundation of substance, not that you have bothered to learn anything about it to provide meat for a debate.

>>> I therefore put my money on MSFT.

What did you buy in at? Just out of curiosity. I'll commiserate with you every step of the way down, should you need it. Otherwise, hey, congrats.

Cheers,
Chaz