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Politics : Clinton's Scandals: Is this corruption the worst ever? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Sam Citron who wrote (4330)	9/9/1998 9:39:00 PM
From: Machaon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13994

<< No President can effectively govern while it the midst of a process as complex as you indicate is possible. >> For that reason alone, unless there is a substantial case for impeachment, and crimes that decidedly fit the rules of impeachment, there will be numerous delays and numerous proceedings. Ugh! Of course, if public opinion turns against Clinton, then I agree with you that he would probably resign and give Gore the controls. In that case, we would have two years of fund raising investigations. Sadly, the political landscape of this country has been changed forever. Regards, Bob

To: Sam Citron who wrote (4330)	9/9/1998 10:27:00 PM
From: The Philosopher	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 13994

But the longer it strings out, the better for Clinton. As you said, "Even the public eventually gets tired of the lurid details." Clinton will count on hashing this stuff over so often that it loses its impact, people are sick of it, people get mad at Congress instead of Clinton (the same way he handled the government shut-down), the polls finally tell Congress to close up shop, they are all sick of it, too, realize they have lost the country, and finally vote for censure instead of impeachment. In the alternative, the thing strings out so long that Clinton's term is over before we get to the actual impeachment trial (after the House has voted the Articles of Impeachment). As has been the case throughout his entire life, delay is Clinton's best ally. He will play this card for all it's worth. Look for multiple legal challenges--I can come up with half a dozen technically credible arguments to make right off the top of my head, and I'm not paid to do that. (E.g., challenge the right of the House to appoint a committee to review the matter; file suit requiring that the whole House be convened as a committee of the whole, since the Constitution requires the House to vote impeachment and on a matter of such importance Congress cannot defer to a committee.) That one alone will take at least 4 months to resolve through the Supreme Court's denial of a review of the Appellate Court's upholding of a Judge's denial of the motion. Follow that by four more motions all preventing the start of proceeding (next one: due process requires that Clinton be allowed to have attorneys present and participating at every phase of the impeachment process; another four months), and by the time the House even starts the process it's already 16 months from now, January 2000, and the process in the House is only just underway. By that time, we will all be so sick of it -- even on this thread -- that do you really believe the House will have the stomach to start impeachment hearings on a President who will be out of office anyhow in less than a year? The Comeback Kid will survive this, too. I hate the very thought, but I fear it to be true.