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To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (20338)	9/11/1998 2:46:00 PM
From: Jerry Olson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50167

Ike DELL-INTC-ORCL-ADBE, sure put in a nice bottom floor for the semis... looks like our markets ignored a monster selloff in Asia... PPI -.04% no inflation..interest rates at historic lows...amazing time in America....

To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (20338)	9/11/1998 5:40:00 PM
From: James Strauss	Respond to of 50167

Ike: I agree... The market moves higher for at least a few days... I shifted some money back into equities and indexes today... Also bought BZL... As for the Starr report, the phrase "Oral Sex" could have been used to save hundreds of pages of fluff to make up for the failure on the Whitewater investigation... The public and market spoke today... Dow up 179... : > Jim

To: IQBAL LATIF who wrote (20338)	9/13/1998 2:39:00 PM
From: IQBAL LATIF	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 50167

Sunday 13th French Press''Kenneth Starr is a type of fundamentalist more efficient in his work of ethic purification than the (Afghan) Taleban is in imposing its moral order,'' the Journal du Dimanche wrote. Another weekly, Marianne, called the sex-filled report ''the first porno assassination in history.'' Le Monde entitled its trenchant editorial ''Hell is American.'' The phrase ''sexual McCarthyism'' -- a reference to America's anti-Communist witchhunts of the 1950s -- echoed through many of the indignant or condescending reactions in France this weekend. Ike on Idea thread 11th Sept-Friday, Sep 11 1998 2:58PM ET Reply # of 20397 Starr is judging Clinton from myopic eye of Mulla Umer the Taleban leader- this report will be welcome in Afghanistan for a country like US this is a non-starter.. Send Starr to be chief prosecutor of sexual crimes in Afghanistan--Mr Starr -- you have put me a conservative to shame, this is gross interference of a private life, you are not going to go anywhere. Democrats who were distancing themselves will most probably find a backlash of support and I will not be surprised to see them rallying around Clinton.. in next few days.. Before the market even moved higher or lower-we wrote that Friday, Sep 11 1998 2:42PM ETReply # of 20397 Market moves higher-- the report is a dud in my opinion... For me this is what counts, I judge myself from what happened after I have predicted a course what will happen, it is this that will continue on idea- independent approach not slanted by religious bigotry of any thought but plain humanism and universality-the global origins of our carnal inclinations will break any exiting law, like my children who will not admit to me about their sexual exploits as they move into puberty, I asked them today and they told point blank 'this is our life and you have no business'. Until we think that issues about sex are inappropriate matters we will never understand forgiveness. For me the only test to judge Clinton is supposedly, Will Kenneth Starr like to talk about his extra-marital sex? If an independent Counsel is appointed to investigate his financial improprieties- why should that independent Consel get involved with Paula Jones and Jennifer Flower! Does that not exceeds authority, a blanket mandate to destroy a man can tarnish anyones image- lets not try to play God here and act as angels. He was not appointed to do the job on which he has exponded so nicely, the sexual life of Clinton was not a part of his mandate, to assume this all knowing role of 'Guardian of truth' with a attitude, this is the attitude which worries me the most, this is the attitude and streak of self righteousness which is the hall mark of Mulla Umer and Khomieni. Not many ''man'' can withstand this kind of probe- It is for this I will never condone this charater assasination and blind witch-hunt, what I don't like about myself I will not like ohers to be subject to such rigourous tests.. I don't like attitude of telling people what is right and wrong, this is gross compromise of liberty if US goes down this route, all hopes of liberties will die! Starr exceeded his authority well beyond his mandate. Was he suppose to investigate White water or Clinton sex life?.. In my opinion men are inherently unfaithful, it is in their in them! and as such I would never ever condemn Clinton on his physiological dependency on oral sex. The carnal pleasures and inclinations man can be very difficult to understand however Clinton with all unfaithfulness loves his child and his wife, he has made mistakes but is it not human. What matters to me is his governance and financial integrity. After going through their life's for last 4 years Starr found nothing as financial impropriety that is more important to me.., how many of us can take a ordinary audit of IRS without a rebuke or reassessment! He passed that test which I expected him to fail miserably for me he is a honest man so is Hillary, someone like me who always doubted his financial integrity I felt sorry for myself not to see anything professionally unsound in his affairs or abuse of office.. That impressed me.. financial integrity - he passed that test although he failed the test of human weakness, that most of we man do and lets not fuss about it! It is the financial test which will also be flunked by these puritans if are subject to as rigorously as Clinton was.. I always considered myself a conservative but I cannot fail to condemn this witch-hunt I will not allow it, it smells of Saddam and Khominism traits, not the US. I hold in highest esteem. Genuine forgiveness is in order here.. Clinton needs a strong censure for lying under oath, it is one thing but lying about his sexual life is totally different thing every one would do it, give the 'Bible' in the hand of all the congress man and ask them to faithfully testify about their sexual past none will truthfully admit their relationships, men are born unfaithful and lets keep that in mind, they will always keep that relationship outside marriage a secret if they have one, one should condemn such people for being unfaithful but male prostitution is part of our historical conduct - Clinton is just an ordinary bloke like us-- forgive him--